Budget, Public Highways Act, Health and Social Services — 10 November 1998 (13th Assembly, 6th Session, pp. 341–369)
1998-11-10, 13th Assembly 6th Session, pp. 341–369
Northwest Territories — Debates (Hansard)
Debates of Nov. 10th, 1998
This is page numbers 341 - 369 of the Hansard for the 13th Assembly, 6th Session. The original version can be accessed on the Legislative Assembly's website or by contacting the Legislative Assembly Library.
The word of the day was chairman .
Topics
Members Present
Item 1: Prayer
Nunavut Transition Planning - An Update
Capital Funding
Trip To Antwerp, London And Brussels
Review Of Education, Culture And Employment Strategic Plan
Community Safety Initiatives
Joint Meeting Of Energy And Environment Ministers - Halifax
NWT Business Credit Corporation 1998 Annual Report
Status Of Nunavut Accomplishments
Remembrance Day Celebration
Remembrance Day
Meeting Of Western Members On The Airport Project
Implementation Of Affirmative Action Policy
Recruitment And Retention Plan
Remembrance Day
Return To Oral Question 120-13(6): Cancer Studies In The Mackenzie Delta
Return To Oral Question 182-13(6): Review Of The Municipal Funding Formula
Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
Aboriginal People In Management Positions
Impact On Nurses Under Hay Plan Reclassification
Advertising For Rfp For Inuvik Regional Hospital
Year 2000 Computer Problems
Airline Services Between Inuvik And Holman
Joint Ministers Of Energy And Environment Meeting
Diamond Opportunities In The Nwt
Formula Funding For Rae-edzo
New Initiatives For Revenue
Written Question 7-13(6): Affirmative Action Statistics
Item 12: Reports Of Committees On The Review Of Bills
Tabled Document 30-13(6): Letters From Nti Re: Legislative Consultation
Tabled Document 31-13(6): Business Credit Corporation Annual Report, 1998
Extended Adjournment
Bill 18: Access To Information And Protection Of Privacy Statutes Amendment Act
Bill 19:
An Act To Amend The Public Highways Act And The Motor Vehicles Act
Item 19: Consideration In Committee Of The Whole Of Bills And Other Matters
Item 20: Report Of Committee Of The Whole
Item 21: Third Reading Of Bills
Item 22: Orders Of The Day
Members Present
Honourable Jim Antoine , Honourable Goo Arlooktoo , Honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Erasmus , Honourable Sam Gargan, Mrs. Groenewegen , Mr. Henry , Honourable Stephen Kakfwi , Mr. Krutko , Mr. Miltenberger , Honourable Kelvin Ng , Mr. Ningark , Mr. O'Brien , Mr. Ootes , Mr. Rabesca , Mr. Roland , Mr. Steen , Honourable Manitok Thompson , Honourable John Todd .
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Oh, God, may your spirit and guidance be in us as we work for the benefit of all our people, for peace and justice in our land and for the constant recognition of the dignity and aspirations of those whom we serve. Amen.
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Item 1: Prayer
Item 1: Prayer
Page 341
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Chair does not recognize a quorum. Thank you. The Chair now recognizes a quorum. I would like to remind Members that we start session at 1:30 p.m. Good afternoon. Orders of the day. Item 2, Ministers' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Minister's Statement 61-13(6): Nunavut Transition Planning - An Update
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 341
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
(Translation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In a short 142 days, the Nunavut territorial government will proudly join Canada's confederation as a new jurisdiction, and it is only fitting that as the Minister responsible for Nunavut Transition Planning, I rise to provide my colleagues with an update on certain aspects of division as it relates to Nunavut Transition Planning. Members of the 13th Assembly have had the privilege of being a part of this historical achievement. We take very seriously our role as one of the three signatories to the Nunavut Political Accord, along with Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated and the federal government.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday, you read out letters of recommendation from the Interim Commissioner of Nunavut regarding bills that are going before this Assembly to facilitate the transition to Nunavut on April 1, 1999. Besides being historically important, this is done in accordance with the recent amendments to the Nunavut Act, as well being done in the spirit of cooperation in Nunavut Transition Planning that is needed to get the job done.
Recently, the Nunavut Caucus held a critical meeting in Iqaluit. Issues such as division-related legislation and business planning for Nunavut were discussed. It was an opportunity for the Nunavut Caucus to meet in Nunavut rather than Yellowknife where meetings were necessarily held. As a result of this meeting, we agreed with the OIC that key employees of the Interim Commissioner's Office will attend before a future meeting of Nunavut Caucus to report on their business planning process and obtain our input. (Translation ends)
The first election for the Nunavut Legislative Assembly will be held on February 15, 1999. Many preparations are already underway and the enumeration for the first Nunavut election has been done. Having an election in advance of April 1, 1999, had to be done by special legislation.
While I was attending a recent meeting of Ministers of Justice in Regina, I was very proud to give a presentation on the single level trial court which will be the proud centrepiece of the Nunavut justice system. On April 1, 1999, Nunavut will become the only jurisdiction in Canada to hold such a court system. In the single court system, one level of court can hear all cases. I was very happy to have the opportunity to address these issues at a national level.
In the coming days, I plan to appear before a Parliamentary Standing Committee to express the GNWT support to further amendments to the Nunavut Act, that will smooth the way for the single level trial court system. Mr. Speaker, these are but few of the many issues facing us in advance of April 1, 1999, and I look forward to the continued cooperation of all those involved in this historic achievement, an undertaking, Mr. Speaker, that will see the first change to Canada's political map in 50 years.
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Minister's Statement 61-13(6): Nunavut Transition Planning - An Update
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 341
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Mr. Ng .
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Minister's Statement 62-13(6): Capital Funding
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 341
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to announce that last Thursday, the Financial Management Board approved inclusion of $1.55 million in capital funding in the 1998/99 Supplementary Appropriation No. 3, for the Department of Health and Social Services.
Included in this funding is:
- a $500,000 contribution to the Stanton Regional Hospital Board to assist in the acquisition of a CAT scanner;
- $300,000 for furnishings and equipment for the soon to be completed health centre in Gjoa Haven; and,
- $750,000 for contributions to boards to address urgent minor capital requirements that could not be funded this year.
Mr. Speaker, the Stanton Regional Health Board, through its foundation, has been pursuing the acquisition of a CAT scanner for some time. Today, we are happy to announce this government's contribution which will bring this pursuit closer to realization. The Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation was
established to help meet the funding needs for medical equipment at Stanton Regional Hospital. Several pieces of equipment have been identified as being required. The CAT scanner, which is a very important diagnostic tool, is at the top of the list. I urge all Members of this House and the general public to generously support the efforts of the Stanton Regional Hospital Foundation in their continuing quest to raise additional funding for medical equipment. As Members may know, a CAT scanner is a system that reconstructs cross sectional images of the human body.
The acquisition of the scanner and the establishment of a CAT Scanning Program will support and enhance the Diagnostic Imaging Program for the Stanton region. This will provide more effective diagnosis and treatment for residents in the region and will decrease the need for invasive diagnostic procedures.
In
summary, Mr. Speaker, the proposed CAT Scan service will support NWT health care practitioners in providing a higher quality service:
- by assisting in patient diagnosis and treatment;
- by facilitating better decision making about southern referrals; and,
- by allowing practitioners to maintain professional skill levels.
Practitioners' support is a key ingredient in recruiting and retaining health professionals in the north, and many specialists rely on the availability of CAT Scan technology. Mr. Speaker, with respect to the second item of newly approved capital funding, I am pleased to say that the new health centre in Gjoa Haven, which will replace the present facility, is nearing completion.
In the past, the expectation has been that the necessary furnishings and equipment in an existing facility could be transferred to a new facility. Therefore, the department has not included furnishing and equipment for replacement projects in their budget. However, given the environment of fiscal restraint, the department has been unable to maintain an active minor capital replacement program. As a consequence, the equipment in the existing Gjoa Haven facility is in very poor shape, and a significant portion needs to be replaced. The recently approved funding will allow for this replacement.
Mr. Speaker, each year the minor capital requests that the department receives from boards far exceed available funding. Requests typically exceed funding by $2 million or more. Knowing this, boards only bring forward their most critical needs. The department is attempting to address this chronic shortfall and minor capital through the business plan. However, there are significant critical needs that need to be addressed now.
Mr. Speaker, aging facilities and equipment continue to place pressure on the health and social services system to maintain essential assets. The financial resources currently available to maintain the existing infrastructure have been and continue to be, insufficient to meet urgent requirements of the boards.
Included in these urgent requirements are items such as:
- medical equipment including dialysis machines, fetal monitors, infant warmers;
- other equipment such as hospital beds and stretches;
- upgraded phone systems and workstations in community facilities;
- renovations to facilities such as painting and replacing carpeting; and,
- vehicle replacements.
These capital purchases will ensure that quality programs and services can continue to be delivered. Capital equipment and facilities that are rapidly nearing the end of their useful and sometimes safe life, if not replaced or renovated, will cause the shutting down of programs and could even mean the closing of facilities. These purchases will also address fire and other safety code issues. Mr. Speaker, we all know that fiscal restraint of the past few years has had a major impact on our ability to provide quality health and social services.
However, I am pleased to say that this government has demonstrated its willingness to recognize and address these difficulties by approving funding for these urgent capital requirements. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Minister's Statement 62-13(6): Capital Funding
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 342
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Minister's Statement 63-13(6): Trip To Antwerp, London And Brussels
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 342
Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recently travelled to Europe where I met with Canadian embassy officials, the Central Selling Organization, and a number of diamond manufacturers to promote investment in the Northwest Territories diamond industry. In meetings with Embassy officials in London and Brussels, we emphasized the need to promote the opportunities associated with diamond-related investments in the NWT to the diamond industry in London and Belgium. We received a favourable response from embassy officials and they indicated a willingness to provide support for our endeavours.
The Central Selling Organization was encouraged to consider opening an office in the NWT. In their role as industry leaders, and in recognition of the potential of their diamond exploration projects, the presence of a De Beers office with a De Beers sign would contribute towards the development of the NWT as a diamond centre. It would also demonstrate their willingness to join our northern business community as full partners. Mr. Speaker, during the two days in Antwerp, I met with six diamond manufacturers who are interested in establishing cutting and polishing facilities in the NWT.
All of these manufacturers are significant players in the diamond industry. A number are developing proposals to cut and polish diamonds in the NWT. We anticipate receiving at least three and as many as five proposals within the next few months from Antwerp-based manufacturers. These companies may join other parties from Canada and the United States that are already interested in participating in the investment opportunities in the NWT. The critical element in making the NWT attractive as a cutting and polishing centre is a guaranteed long-term supply of high-quality rough diamonds direct from the mine.
We will continue to work with BHP Diamonds and future producers to ensure that this need is met. Thank you.
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Minister's Statement 63-13(6): Trip To Antwerp, London And Brussels
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 343
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Mr. Dent .
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Minister's Statement 64-13(6): Review Of Education, Culture And Employment Strategic Plan
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 343
Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment has begun a major review of its strategic plan which is now five years old. The key goals for that plan were developed after consulting with people across the north. Those goals are the foundation of our plan. As well, the plan helped us to improve coordination between our programs and services. The result of having a strategic plan are better links between early childhood programs, schools, colleges and work. On the whole, the plan has been very useful, particularly in setting goals and measuring progress.
It is time now to review the plan, update it and make the necessary changes. We are close to the creation of two new territories. We know that each new territory must set its own goals and priorities. Technology is progressing rapidly and the skills and knowledge required in the workplace are demanding. Given these circumstances, it is important that we take a step back, look at the progress we have made and think about where our strategic plan should take us over the next five years. I should point out that we are not planning to completely rewrite the plan.
Instead, we want the public, parents, students, educators, employers and other interested groups and organizations to tell us what has been successful, what we should focus on now and help us outline how to deal with the challenges ahead. As part of this review, I will very soon appoint people to a Minister's forum. This forum will collect information from the public and make recommendations on future direction from kindergarten to grade 12.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Ms. Thompson .
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Minister's Statement 65-13(6): Community Safety Initiatives
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
Page 343
Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
(Translation) Mr. Speaker, Members may recall the colouring book that MACA released last winter, on safety around municipal service vehicles. This colouring book has been very successful. We have received many requests for copies of it. As a result of the overwhelming interest, MACA is now producing a series of activity books to children about safety. (Translation ends)
Our first activity book features safety around dogs. It explains the responsibility that dog owners and community residents have to keep their community safe.
Future safety books will encourage consumer awareness, fire protection, emergency response and safety around animals. These books will help teachers, parents and community officials to discuss important safety issues. I would like to thank the NWT Association of Municipalities for their support in distributing the books around the north. Mr. Speaker, MACA is working with its partner agencies on many other safety initiatives for communities.
We have worked with the Inuit Broadcasting Corporation to produce an episode of the very popular children's show, "Takuginai." This episode talks about safety around dogs. MACA is also working with the NWT Dog Sledding Association to produce public service announcements on dog safety. Mr. Speaker, MACA's other initiatives include our partnership with the NWT Recreation and Parks Association and the NWT Fire Chiefs' Association to deliver playground safety workshops and inspections.
New initiatives this year include the Play Safe, Be Safe Program for pre-schoolers and the community-based Risk Watch Program. Risk Watch gives children the skills and knowledge to recognize danger and avoid risks. Other public safety resources will include ice and water safety, winter safety, fire safety, firearm safety and safety on the land. Mr. Speaker, through the participation of our partner organizations, we hope to increase awareness of safety practices in all northern communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Minister's Statement 65-13(6): Community Safety Initiatives
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to wave Rule 34(6), so that all Ministers' statements filed with the Clerk can be delivered today.
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Minister's Statement 65-13(6): Community Safety Initiatives
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Sahtu is seeking unanimous consent to wave Rule 34(6). Do I have any nays? There are no nay? Mr. Kakfwi , you have unanimous consent.
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Minister's Statement 66-13(6): Joint Meeting Of Energy And Environment Ministers - Halifax
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Thank you. Mr. Speaker, on October 19 and 20, I had the privilege of co-chairing the joint meeting of federal, provincial and territorial Ministers of Energy and Environment in Halifax. Discussions focused on climate change and other air issues. Of greatest importance to the Northwest Territories was the discussion on the international agreements recently negotiated between Canada, United States, Russia and European nations. These agreements aim to control emissions of persistent organic pollutants and heavy metals.
As Members are aware, the north is affected by this pollution. Wind and ocean currents carry it northward from industrialized countries. Ministers confirmed that Canada should proceed to ratify the agreements, but that provinces and territories will need to be fully consulted should further obligations be required. Another major outcome of the Halifax meeting was the signing of a Canada-wide Acid Rain Strategy. This document builds upon the successful efforts of the last decade to reduce pollutants that cause acid rain.
Aside from these two issues, Ministers devoted the majority of time to reviewing Canadian actions on climate change. During these discussions, we reaffirmed the two-track approach all governments are taking to address climate change. That approach is to take action that will have clear net benefits now, while assessing options for measures that will lead to sustained reductions in the future. Mr. Speaker, the Government of the Northwest Territories recognizes that climate change is a serious concern. It has the potential to significantly disrupt the global environment, and in turn, will affect the ability of northerners to lead healthy and productive lives.
Our government recognizes its responsibility to support local and global actions to reduce greenhouse gas emissions. We must support Canada's position as a leader among nations to protecting the environment. The GNWT is committed to developing a "Made-In-The-North" Strategy to help control greenhouse gas missions. We are also committed to working with federal and provincial governments to develop an equitable approach to Canada's international commitment. Mr.
Speaker, in the NWT we are developing a strategy to control northern greenhouse gas emissions that is being developed in cooperation with a broad range of stakeholders. As it evolves, we will take action to reduce the negative effects of climate change on our health and environment, to minimize the negative impacts to our economy and take advantage of the economic opportunities that will result from the use of more efficient equipment and materials. Mahsi cho.
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Minister's Statement 66-13(6): Joint Meeting Of Energy And Environment Ministers - Halifax
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Mr. Kakfwi .
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Minister's Statement 67-13(6): NWT Business Credit Corporation 1998 Annual Report
Item 2: Ministers' Statements
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to present the Northwest Territories Business Credit Corporation's 1998 Annual Report. The Business Credit Corporation is dedicated to assisting economic development in the NWT and encouraging job opportunities by providing loans and contract security to northern entrepreneurs and businesses. As a provider of loans, the Business Credit Corporation recognizes the diverse needs of its northern clients and tailors financing as much as possible to meet their needs and expectations. The bulk of monies lent to northern businesses remain in the north creating economic spin-offs at the community level.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to mention some of the highlights during the year. Operationally, the Business Credit Corporation's approved loans grew by $14.6 million, which went to 119 northern businesses. This is an increase of 20 percent in the number of loans approved and over 62 percent in dollar terms over the previous year. The value of approved loans to all three community levels increased, with level 2 communities showing the greatest increase - 177 percent over the previous year, followed by a 48 percent in level 3 communities.
In the level 1 communities, 46 percent of the value of approved loans were outside of Yellowknife, indicating a strong demand from the communities of Fort Smith, Hay River and Inuvik. The increase in approved loans over the previous year across the north, shows the continued economic growth of the northern economy and the important role of the government as a partner in stimulating job creation.
I am pleased to note that while the overall loan portfolio group, by almost 14 percent to over $31 million, the administrative expenses decreased slightly from the previous year. The Business Credit Corporation has become more efficient in delivering its services to northern businesses and will continue to do so in the future. In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I wish to thank members of the board of directors for their guidance, support and commitment throughout the year and look forward to their continued dedication. Thank you.
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Minister's Statement 67-13(6): NWT Business Credit Corporation 1998 Annual Report
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Ministers' statements. Members' statements. Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Member's Statement 151-13(6): Status Of Nunavut Accomplishments
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we get closer to April 1, 1999, for division, we have increasingly come across many important milestones that remind us that this important date is drawing near. Recently, we had the Formula Financing Agreements, yesterday, we had the letter read from the Interim Commissioner's Office for the first time in this House, and today, I will be tabling letters from the Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated president, who expresses support for these bills. We are in the process right now of completing service agreements between the GNWT and Nunavut.
Particular importance to me today, is the fact that the Clerk designates for the Legislative Assembly of Nunavut are here with us today. I would like, with your permission, to recognize them and personally, I would like to thank you, Mr. Speaker, and especially, Mr. David Hamilton, who has been extremely cooperative in allowing this to occur. Mr. John Quirke is the Clerk designate. Mr. Quirke is joined by Ms. Rhoda Perkison and Ms. Nancy Tupik, who will be Mr. Quirke's number 2 and 3, in the House of the Legislative Assembly.
They have before them a very broad range of important work that they need to do for the planning for briefings, travel, helping MLAs select their Cabinet, and the Premier , et cetera. I would like to ask the Members to join me in congratulating these three individuals and wishing them the best of luck. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Miltenberger .
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Member's Statement 152-13(6): Remembrance Day Celebration
Item 3: Members' Statements
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Eighty years ago, World War I concluded. Fifty-three years ago, World War II finished. Forty-seven years ago, the Korean conflict ended. Hundreds of thousands of Canadians laid down their lives in those conflicts and many, many more have laid down their lives since then in dozens of places around the world in Peace Keeping Initiatives. Tomorrow is the day where we take the time to think back and think about all those who have given their lives, so that we can live in the style and type of government we now have.
Mr. Speaker, as we think about those who gave their lives for us, we also have to think how fragile a thing peace is and how lucky we are, an oasis basically, in the world, surrounded by countries at war in almost every other continent around us. It did not come lightly and it is nothing we should take for granted. It is something that we have to work at every day, not only as a nice thought, but in our dealings with each other as we move toward division, as we look at setting up two separate territories. This is a critical issue and I would encourage everybody to take time tomorrow to think of all those who have died.
I would also like to acknowledge and thank the Commissioner who will be coming to Fort Smith tomorrow to help us celebrate the Remembrance Day ceremonies, which I as well, will be attending. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statement. Mr. Roland .
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Member's Statement 153-13(6): Remembrance Day
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. November 11, marks a very important date in the history of democracy. My generation in Canada have not had to fight for our own democracy as many men and women of our country in World Wars I and II, and the Korean War, as well as many UN peace keeping missions. Mr. Speaker, in this hectic journey we call life, we have become so busy that we often forget to thank those who have gone before us. Our focus is on today, and we look ahead to try and prepare for what may come tomorrow.
Mr. Speaker, tomorrow is a day dedicated to the memory of those who bravely gave their lives to protect the very fabric we call democracy. I would like to take this time to thank the many survivors and the families of those who laid their lives down, so that I, as well as my children, could continue to live in a free democratic society. Mr. Speaker, I have been invited to take part once again in the ceremonies of the Royal Canadian Legion, McInnes Branch 220 in Inuvik, but unfortunately, this year I will be unable to attend. I would like to send a message home that I am sorry I cannot be there personally, but my thoughts and prayers will be with them during their time. Thank you.
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Member's Statement 153-13(6): Remembrance Day
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Members' statements. Mr. Rabesca .
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Member's Statement 154-13(6): Meeting Of Western Members On The Airport Project
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James Rabesca
North Slave
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, today I hosted a meeting between the Western MLAs and the community of Rae-Edzo. This meeting was mainly to start a dialogue to gather support for my colleagues for the Road to Resources and other important initiatives that my community is working on, which of course, includes the airport project. At this time, I would like to thank the honourable Charles Dent , Mr. Roy Erasmus , Mr. Michael Miltenberger , Mr. David Krutko and Mr. Seamus Henry for attending this meeting. Listening to my constituents' concerns regarding this very important issues. Throughout this meeting the word compromise was said over and over.
On that note, it was agreed that in order for the Road to Resources project to go ahead, all parties must work together to ensure this project is a success. It is with this feeling of compromise, we will be planning another meeting of this type, which will also include members from Detah, N'dilo and Yellowknife. In closing, I again would like to thank my colleagues and members of my community for attending the start of a process that will benefit the whole North Slave region. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Mr. Krutko .
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Member's Statement 155-13(6): Implementation Of Affirmative Action Policy
Item 3: Members' Statements
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today on an issue that I have raised before in this House with limited success, regarding the implementation of a policy in this government. I am talking about, Mr. Speaker, the
Affirmative Action Policy that this government has had in place to support aboriginal people for 12 years. We do not see the success rate or increases of aboriginal people in the government workforce. This government must effectively implement the policy, which has not happened.
Without the Department of Personnel, there is no consultation in dealing with affirmative action applicants and clients. Most jobs in regard to the Affirmative Action Policy are being filled more in relation to labour positions and lower standards of opportunities of this government. Mr. Speaker, individuals who attend post-secondary education, and to obtain their degrees at universities and come back home are still having a hard time finding jobs with the Government of the Northwest Territories.
Mr. Speaker, we may point fingers at BHP and other companies to implement social impact agreements and ensuring that a certain percentage of positions will be filled by northerners and aboriginal people, but, Mr. Speaker, in this government, especially in the area of management positions only 12 percent are held by aboriginal people. We need to look at many aboriginal people in the Northwest Territories who have schooling degrees and work in the private sector and ask ourselves why are those people not in the Government of the Northwest Territories workforce.
There maybe many questions asked through this government in regard to the Affirmative Action Policy, but, Mr. Speaker, it is important that if we are going to have policies that we ensure they are there for the purpose of benefiting those who the policy was drafted for. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time, I will be asking the Minister a question on the Affirmative Action Policy and why is it not working.
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Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Mr. Erasmus .
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Member's Statement 156-13(6): Recruitment And Retention Plan
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to urge the GNWT and the union to get a contract out, so our public service members can vote on it. Mr. Speaker, this issue has dragged on far too long and it is affecting all northerners in many ways. For example, we have been hearing for quite a while now about the nursing shortage. If you listen to the radio, you hear about it. If you look at the papers, you can see it there. Turn on your TV, you see it there. Lately, we have had Members talking about it here.
Some of our Members went to Tuktoyaktuk and saw signs up that there were fewer services being provided. Another Member spoke yesterday, that the health system is in a death spiral because of this. Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Health and Social Services has tabled a Recruitment and Retention Plan. This was put together with the help of health boards, nurses, doctors and so on.
Mr. Speaker, we have heard that community nurses stand to gain up to $13,000 a year through a new collective agreement that has already been agreed upon. The problem is the GNWT cannot pay those new salaries because the bargaining process is still going on. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
The Member for Yellowknife North is seeking unanimous consent to conclude his statement. Do we have any nays? There are no nays. Mr. Erasmus , you have unanimous consent.
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Roy Erasmus
Yellowknife North
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, this situation reminds me of an old story. The one where there is water flowing through a hole in a dike and the little Dutch boy sticks his finger in the hole and stops the flow and that saves his village. In our case, the little Dutch boy, or rather the little Scottish boy is ready to put his finger in the dike, unfortunately there is something blocking his finger. I urge the union and the government negotiators to hurry up and get something out for the workers to vote on. For the sake of our health care system, quite blocking the Scottish boy's finger. Thank you.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Members' statements. Mr. Ootes .
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Member's Statement 157-13(6): Remembrance Day
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would also like to say some words on Remembrance Day today. I would like to mention that I was born in a country that was under war in Holland in the 1940's. I must say that I have had my parents speak about that time with a great deal of memories that were not pleasant. There was suffering, a lot of death, and a lot of injustices done to people who were overridden by an other power. It effected my family, my mother, my father, my brother, myself, my grandparents, and our extended family very dramatically in many ways. I would like to say that war is not pleasant.
It is very, very unpleasant, not just for the soldiers but for the residents in those particular areas. We came to Canada in 1952, and I must say, that we found this particular country a dramatic change from where we came from. A country where there is tremendous opportunity, and you will never believe what it does for people who come from an area that is war torn, to come to a country like this. The opportunity presents itself, if a person is willing to take it. For anybody in this country, it is there to be taken.
I do not care how destitute you are, how poor you are, if you really want to get somewhere, you can do it. I have proven that in my particular case.
Mr. Speaker, I would like to tell people that this is the best country in the world. It has been judged as such by the United Nations five times in this decade. It is based on 175 other countries comparisons and on about 75 criteria. On this day, tomorrow, I would like people to remember and not only remember that war is terrible and those who have died in it, but also remember what a great country we have, what opportunities we have, and the responsibilities we have to ensure that we carry that on for our future generations. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
--Applause.
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Samuel Gargan
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Return To Oral Question 120-13(6): Cancer Studies In The Mackenzie Delta
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
Page 347
Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to oral question asked by Mr. Krutko on September 25, on cancer studies in the MacKenzie Delta. On September 25, 1998, you expressed concern over high cancer rates in the Mackenzie Delta and you asked me what studies have been done and where they are.
The Government of the Northwest Territories, through the Department of Health and Social Services, maintains a Cancer Registry under the Disease Registries Act. It is a legal duty of health professionals in the NWT to report every newly diagnosed case of cancer to the registry.
Information gathered in the Cancer Registry is reviewed annually and reports are produced periodically. The analyses are usually published in EpiNorth, our epidemiological newsletter. Data is also regularly provided back to health and social services boards upon request.
Cancer rates in the NWT, although rising, still remain lower than the rest of Canada. This is also true of the Mackenzie Delta region. The types of cancer which are on the rise include lung cancer, strongly linked to high rates of tobacco smoking, and cancer of the large intestine and rectum, associated with dietary changes away from traditional foods towards those that are fried, high in saturated fats, and low in fibre, vitamins and trace minerals.
The perception that cancer rates are high in many NWT communities relates to the following:
-cancer rates were traditionally quite low among aboriginal people and the rise in the past two or three decades has been noticeable;
-cancer is a disease associated with aging; as the numbers of elders increase, so do the numbers of people with cancer; and,
-people with cancer are also more "visible" in small communities as compared with large centres; proportionally more people are aware or touched by each new case of cancer.
The department is quite concerned about this issue. In collaboration with aboriginal partners, a project is currently underway to develop a communications package to facilitate discussions about cancer at the community and regional levels. A workshop was held in Yellowknife on October 14-15, 1998. It was coordinated by the Dene Nation and included participation from regional stakeholders. Once a communications package has been developed, it will be provided to the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Board for use at the community level in your region. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Ms. Thompson .
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Return To Oral Question 182-13(6): Review Of The Municipal Funding Formula
Item 4: Returns To Oral Questions
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Manitok Thompson
Aivilik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a return to an oral question asked by Mr. Rabesca on November 9, 1998, Review of the Municipal Funding for MACA.
In response to the Member's question regarding funding for the community of Rae-Edzo, I would like to confirm for the Member that in recognition of the unique situation in that community, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs provided additional funding to the community of Rae-Edzo for both the 1997/1998, and 1998/1999 fiscal years. The department has also identified additional funding for the community for the 1999/2000 fiscal year subject to the approval of the Legislative Assembly.
Based on the concerns raised by the Member for North Slave , the Municipal Finance Review is considering the unique situation of separate communities within a single municipal boundary, as in Rae-Edzo. I anticipate that this review will result in recommendations regarding such situations. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. Returns to oral questions. Item 5, recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Roland .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Page 347
Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am happy to recognize my constituency assistant in the gallery. She used to go by the name of Janine Gordon, but has since been married this summer and now goes by Janine Blake. Thank you.
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Page 347
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Krutko .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Pat Thomas with the NWTTA. Welcome Pat.
--Applause
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Page 348
The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ningark .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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John Ningark
Natilikmiot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize two people in the public gallery. One is Annie Clark, now a resident of Iqaluit, Nunavut, former interpreter/translator of this Assembly for ten years.
--Applause
Secondly, Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize Atima Hadlari, Director of Language Bureau of Cambridge Bay in Nunavut.
--Applause
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Ng .
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Item 5: Recognition Of Visitors In The Gallery
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you. I thank my honourable colleague for recognizing Mr. Atima Hadlari. I did not realize he was there. I, too, would also like to recognize Mr. Atima Hadlari as one of my constituents and a golfing associate. Thank you.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Mr. Henry .
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Seamus Henry
Yellowknife South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it gives me great pleasure today, to recognize someone I have had the opportunity to work with for the past ten years, and an individual that allows me to have the freedom to have so much time in this House, a member of my constituency, Mr. Craig Shenher.
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of visitors in the gallery. Item 6, oral questions. Mr. Krutko .
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Question 197-13(6): Aboriginal People In Management Positions
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 348
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is to the Minister of Finance , regarding the Affirmative Action Policy. In regard to my statement it seems like there is a real gap in the number of jobs that have been created through this policy in regard to the changes that we made in this government with the removal of the Department of Personnel. There are a lot of jobs being advertised, but there are not too many aboriginal people filling those positions.
I would like to ask the Minister exactly why is it that there is such a low percentage of aboriginal people at the management position level in this government and what is being done to ensure that there is an opportunity for aboriginal people to get into the managerial positions?
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Thank you. The Deputy Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Affirmative Action Policy was transferred to the Department of the Executive this fiscal year. I want to assure the Member, this government is fully committed to the principles of affirmative action. We have indeed taken action to try and involve more aboriginal people in the public service. There are on record many examples in the past where we have done so. Incidentally, Mr. Speaker, I am aware that the Premier has been preparing a document that he is prepared to put before this House. He has not been able to do so in the last few days, but I believe the plan is for the document on affirmative action to be tabled in this House on Thursday or Friday. Thank you.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .
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Supplementary To Question 197-13(6): Aboriginal People In Management Positions
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 348
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is good and well to table another report in this House, but the policy this government presently operates under, is a policy in this government which directs the government to ensure that aboriginal people have opportunities in this government for jobs. Mr.
Speaker, I would like to ask the Minister in regard to division which is coming, why is it that there are so many aboriginal people who basically have the schooling and the degrees, but do not want to work with the Government of the Northwest Territories, or is it a question of not having the abilities in regard to having extensive post-secondary education? Why is there such a low percentage of aboriginal people in the managerial area of this government?
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Further Return To Question 197-13(6): Aboriginal People In Management Positions
Question 197-13(6): Aboriginal People In Management Positions
Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 348
Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recall that a committee was struck early on in the life of this Assembly to look at the Affirmative Action Policy. This was an issue of concern to many Members of this House. I believe that Mr. Picco , Mr. Erasmus and Mr. Miltenberger were members of the committee that was struck and there may have been more Members. The government put together a draft policy and provided it to this Assembly and gave it to the committee for review. The committee reviewed this draft policy and reported on it in June 1997.
Since that time, there has been a working group established, there has been more research and recommendations put in place. As I said earlier, Mr. Speaker, the government is firmly committed to affirmative action. We have taken actions to ensure that more aboriginals are involved. We do need to balance the affirmative action hiring based on merit, et cetera. As I said earlier, the Premier has been working on a document that outlines for all Members
what the government has done and will be doing and what it proposes to do and that will be tabled later this week.
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Item 6: Oral Questions
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The Speaker
Samuel Gargan
Oral questions. Supplementary, Mr. Krutko .
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Supplementary To Question 197-13(6): Aboriginal People In Management Positions
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Item 6: Oral Questions
Page 349
David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will try direct my question, I do not think it has been answered yet. The whole question was on the Affirmative Action Policy itself. I know there are attempts to work on a new policy, but we have a policy in this government, Mr. Speaker, that we have been working on to ensure that the Government of the Northwest Territories Affirmative Action Policy is there to ensure that this government reflects the people it serves.
The Government of the Northwest Territories and the population of the Northwest Territories has a majority of aboriginal people, yet, in the Government of the Northwest Territories right now, we see a lot of senior management people who are not aboriginal people. The question I asked to begin with is, why is it that there are no aboriginal people or no large percentage increases in the area of management positions of this government and why are aboriginal people not being hired in that area? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First, I wanted to respond just a part of what the Member had said in saying that there are, indeed, yes, many non-aboriginal people in our workforce and many of them are very committed, hard working and good people and many who were born and raised in the north. That is very important to us and we value each and every one of our workers. I also wanted to say that, in trying to obtain a more representative workforce, this type of exercise takes time, sometimes it takes a long time.
If I can use, for example, the situation that is occurring in Nunavut where 85 percent of the population is Inuit and we had set the fairly ambitious goal of 50 percent Inuit representation in the workforce, in the general workforce, and management by division and eventually reaching 85 percent several years down the road. It is not the type of exercise that you can rush forward and push through overnight. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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David Krutko
Mackenzie Delta
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I applaud the Member from the east, especially in relation to the efforts that have been made in the east. I wish we could strive for the same goals in the Western Territory. In the Western Territory, in the area I represent everyone knows that decisions in this government is not made in this House, it is made at senior levels of government.
It is important that we have aboriginal people at that level in this government, so that when decisions are made, we have a reflection of basically the sector of the population that can feel they are being represented at where the decisions are being made. That is why it is critical that this government implement the idea of the affirmative action and ensure that aboriginal people, we have great employees who are at the lower sector of this government. The government has to make more efforts to move those people up, so they will take on those senior managerial positions.
Can the Minister give me statistics to show exactly how many aboriginal people are in senior levels of government to date, so we can see how many of those increases have been applied through affirmative action?
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I know we have put together and provided those types of statistics to the House before and we can do that again. I would just invite the Member to work with us to put forward his suggestions on what more we can do and what other areas we should be working in. As I said earlier, the document that the Premier will table later this week will show that this government is doing a good committed job in working towards hiring more aboriginal people in our work force. Thank you.
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister responsible for the FMBS, Mr. Todd . Mr. Todd , in relation to the pay equity issue and union negotiations, can the Minister give us some more detail as to what the impact will be once these negotiations are completed, for example on the nurses? Thank you.
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Can I ask the Member if he can rephrase the question. Maybe on what impact the nurses would have according to the Hay Plan or the new classification plan. Mr. O'Brien .
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will rephrase the question. Mr. Todd , what can the nurses expect once the new Hay Plan
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated earlier this week to a similar question, if we can get a collective agreement out there to our membership and we get a positive response, which I am optimistic we will get, our nursing fraternity at the community level would get somewhere in the
region of $9,000 to $13,000 pay adjustment based upon the new Hay Plan Job Evaluation System that we now have in place. The optimum issue here is, will the UNW in fact come to an agreement this week or next week and if and when they do will they get it out to the membership so they can vote on it. I certainly hope so. Thank you.
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Kevin O'Brien
Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I am not quite sure if this question is appropriate given the fact that the negotiations are not completed yet, if Mr. Todd would comment on this figure between $9,000 and $13,000. If there is any impact on this figure, or if there is any relationship, to the pay equity situation, or is it completely separate? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
There are two components to what we are doing, Mr. Speaker. There is a retroactivity to pay equity. If we could get an agreement on pay equity which, to put it quite candidly, extremely disappointed that we were not able to move as aggressively as we should have on, so there is the retroactivity from when a nurse started, in 1988, I believe this complaint goes back, to the present day. That is a significant amount of money for the nursing fraternity and others, and then there is the ongoing pay changes that have taken place because we have put into place the Hay Plan Job Evaluation System.
I do not know if that explains it or not. What you have is, we are at the collective bargaining right now with the UNW. If they agree with the changes that we have recommended, and the monies we put forward both in the collective agreement and in the adjustment evaluation systems, then the nursing fraternity will get a significant increase somewhere between $9,000 and $13,000, plus some of the additional collective bargaining components that are underway right now. They will not be able to get any retroactive pay on the pay equity side, unless we get an agreement on that.
To date, the UNW has insisted that I decouple it, and so, if some Members of this House, and I, have suggested on a number of occasions that by decoupling it, the reality is, we will not get the agreement for years to come and it will be in the courts. My preference would be that we would move forward on both these initiatives, so we can put new money, more money, in the hands of our employees.
Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the case from my UNW colleagues and union at this time so we are going to deal with the collective agreement and hopefully come to some resolve this week, or next week, get it out to the membership, let them rightly vote yes and no on it. Assuming that they vote yes, which I hope they will, put some money into the hands of our employees before Christmas.
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Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we referred to the nurses under the Hay Plan. There are a number of other groups, of course, that come under the Hay Plan and I believe the only individuals that have been dealt with are the excluded members or government staff, I am not sure if that is correct or not. Can the other groups expect the same type of increases? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let me tell you that we have already put into place for our non-unionized employees. The changes are necessary to give them more money and they are already getting it. The only reason we have not done it with the UNW is because, for a variety of reasons, they have chosen not to move it forward to the membership. Once it gets, and I am optimistic that common sense will prevail in the next week, that we will be able to get the UNW to recognize that this offer is fair, it is reasonable and affordable.
It puts again, to the point of being repetitive, new money in the hands of our employees that they do not currently have. We will be able to get that out and get an agreement on it, and I am optimistic we will, and hopefully get money in the hands of employees before Christmas. Time is running out and the obligation and responsibility now lies at the mediation table and hopefully they will move quickly to seek a resolve. Thank you.
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Kivallivik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Todd , I agree that our employees should get whatever is coming to them and that is on the table. We have made some major cuts over the last few years to staff, programs, benefits, salaries, I am just curious as to where are we going to come up with all this money to pay the employees? Thank you.
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Keewatin Central
It is also important to point out, we also cut the less fortunate, programs and capital programs, et cetera. I want to say, quite frankly, there are a great deal of other people out there in the territories that beyond organized labour and teachers' associations, et cetera, they have equally took hits like everybody else did, including this House. We budgeted, and I budgeted some time ago, for both the pay
equity and the collective agreement, of $40 million. It is in the balance sheet, if you want, the income statements. That money is sitting there, waiting patiently to be distributed to our employees, should the union and UNW executive decides to have the courage and conviction to allow our employees to vote on what I think is a fair and reasonable settlement.
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Floyd Roland
Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question at this time will be directed to the Minister of Health and Social Services . Recently, a constituent of mine raised a concern that he had read that the RFP for the Inuvik hospital was out and actually listed as the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Centre. He was concerned that we had been downgraded. I want to ask the Minister, that this, in fact, is still remaining a hospital, the Inuvik Regional Health and Social Services Hospital. Thank you.
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Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it has always been the intent of the department and myself that this is a replacement project for the Inuvik Regional Hospital and it will continue to be that case. Thank you.
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Inuvik
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the Minister has confirmed that it remains a hospital, so who takes care of the advertisement of such projects? Is it his department, do they send it out or prepare an ad, or is it another department? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, as I understand, because this is one of the P3 projects that is under the auspices of P3, one of those ones, that it is under the auspices of the Financial Management Board Secretariat taking the lead on the coordination of all those P3 projects. You can blame them for that. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister notify or send the message to the other department that, in fact, it is still a hospital, so we can clear up any further advertisements that go in, whether it is the Construction Association weekly bulletin or advertisements for contracts in the local papers throughout the territories that it would be corrected? Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would have no problems in trying to clarify that, if indeed, it was our government that put out the naming of the project as a health centre versus a hospital in error. I cannot speak on the advertisements in the NWT Construction Association newsletter which announces those things because that is under Mr. Bushey, I believe. Thank you.
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Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will he work with other departments to make sure it is recorded and listed as a hospital? He is going on about Mr. Bushey, but I am more concerned about this government. Thank you.
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Again, to remind the Members that it is inappropriate for naming of names of people who cannot defend themselves in this Chamber. Mr. Ng .
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Kelvin Ng
Kitikmeot
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would say that for $28.5 million, it would be a lot to spend for a health centre. I will make sure that we clarify that for the honourable Member. Thank you.
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Question 200-13(6): Year 2000 Computer Problems
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Deputy Premier and it relates to the Department of the Executive. The year 2000 computer problems are receiving quite a bit of attention nationally in the Globe and Mail and other publications that governments should be paying attention to this whole area of concern. There could be devastating problems if it is not treated with a tremendous amount of detailed attention. I am wondering, considering that computer glitches are a possibility and we thrive on computers today in all facets, telephones to computers themselves, desktop and laptop computers, et cetera.
I wonder if the Minister could tell us if the government does have a program to address the year 2000 computer glitch problem? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
The Deputy Premier, Mr. Arlooktoo .
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Goo Arlooktoo
Baffin South
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am going to ask our in-house computer expert, Mr. Todd , to deal with that question. Thank you.
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The Minister of Finance , Mr. Todd .
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just discovered e-mail last week. Mr. Speaker, I am responsible for overall coordination of the communications strategy of the government, so my honourable colleague, Deputy Premier is correct. We do recognize the problem, as other governments and other agencies throughout the country do, with respect to moving into the new millennium, the year 2000. I do not have the detail of what steps are taking place, but we are clearly working diligently to ensure that there is some continuity in our whole high-tech communication system before the millennium occurs. That is being worked out by a number of people in the government and also in the private sector. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Naturally, the government does not have direct control over some areas, but we are affected as citizens, if we should have a breakdown of telephone service, et cetera. I wonder if the Minister could tell us if our government people are also in touch with organizations such as NorthwesTel, the RCMP, again with relationship to communication, telephones, the military, and of course, transportation organizations, if the government is in touch with those, and coordinating with those particular organizations to ensure that they also are addressing this whole issue? Thank you.
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John Todd
Keewatin Central
Mr. Speaker, I am not aware if we are discussing the matter with the army, the RCMP or anybody else, but what I can tell you is, we do have an internal committee in headquarters, and regional representatives and reviewing the existing systems and vehicles that we have for communication across the territories. I would have to check with my deputy and get an update on it. It is an issue that everybody understands. It is an international issue. There is a recognition, across the country, that something has to be done about it, we are no different than anybody else.
We are working with a variety of partners in trying to ensure that there is some continuity in the systems that we have, and the services we provide. I do not know today, if in fact, we have been communicating with these other agencies. I will check into it and get back to my honourable colleague. Thank you.
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Jake Ootes
Yellowknife Centre
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the Minister will not be able to give me detailed answers on this today, but it is an area of concern, it seems by more and agencies. Citizens get affected by it and the mail is maybe affected, et cetera, so I would appreciate if the Minister could have some attention paid to this and have his officials ensure that it is not just government that addresses the issue but other agencies throughout the territory, that we are up to speed on this. Thank you.
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John Todd
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Mr. Speaker, we will do the best we can given the dilemma that we are in.
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Question 201-13(6): Airline Services Between Inuvik And Holman
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Honourable Charles Dent , Minister responsible for western division issues. Mr. Speaker, in the past, I have brought up the issue of how this government is going to respond to the fact that Holman is now relocated in the Inuvik region for administration purposes. There are some Members expressing interest in this issue as well as indicated by my honourable colleague from Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko , who voiced his concern in regards to court services for Holman in my riding yesterday. I thank the Member for bringing that up. Mr.
Speaker, in particular, as well as that issue that was raised yesterday, I would like the Minister to possibly bring the House up to date as to what the government is doing to prepare Holman for division? Thank you.
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The Minister responsible for Western Transition Planning, Mr. Dent .
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, along with the Member, I have met with the mayor from the community on several occasions, in fact, in Inuvik on Friday and Saturday, I had the occasion to talk to Mayor Bristow about the transition measures. The mayor, is satisfied that Ministers and departments are working well with the community to coordinate the transfer of administrative support from the Kitikmeot to the Inuvik region. Specifically, Mr. Speaker, the hamlet has met with Government of the Northwest Territories departments from both Kitikmeot and the Inuvik region, MACA, Justice, Education, Culture and Employment, the divisional education councils, the health
boards, and housing. Work is progressing well and to date. The mayor advises me there are no significant concerns. There will be a meeting this Friday in the community with Education, Culture and Employment from both the Kitikmeot and Inuvik regions. As well, Arctic College and health board officials will be meeting with hamlet officials in the community this Friday. Mr. Speaker, I am certain we are doing what we can to try and make sure that the people of Holman see this transfer as being entirely seamless. The goal of this government is to make sure that the residents of Holman see no difference in the way in which they receive their services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Samuel Gargan
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Vince Steen
Nunakput
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we seem to be addressing all the particular issues pertaining to departments, but one thing I see as lacking is, there is definitely a need for an airline connection between Inuvik and Holman on a regular basis, which is not there at this point in time, and I am wondering what the department or the government is doing towards encouraging the airlines to open a scheduled flight to this particular community to allow the departments to have a feasible access to the community to provide the services? Thank you.
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Charles Dent
Yellowknife Frame Lake
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to date the government has not done anything official to try and change air travel patterns. The expectation is, that as the administrative services are transferred over from the Kitikmeot to the Inuvik region, there will be a natural increase in the amount of traffic from Inuvik to Holman and that will lead to the development of regular air services. We could certainly make sure that the airlines in the north are aware of the transfer of administrative services and advise them that this will most likely lead to an increase in traffic, so that they can watch the route and be prepared to add services as necessary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
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Question 202-13(6): Joint Ministers Of Energy And Environment Meeting
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, my questions will be addressed to the Minister of RWED with regard to his statement on the joint meeting of Energy and Environment Ministers of Halifax. Specifically, Mr. Speaker, I would like to get some more information about the strategy he references in the last page of his statement that is being developed in the north to control greenhouse gas emissions. As the whole issue of greenhouse gas emissions is a critical one, and especially so in the north where there is a much more dramatic impact on our climate. Could the Minister elaborate on how this strategy will develop and when it will be completed? Thank you.
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Samuel Gargan
The Minister responsible for Resources, Wildlife and Economic Development , Mr. Kakfwi .
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Stephen Kakfwi
Sahtu
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the Northwest Territories, we have a heavy dependence on the burning of fossil fuels in order to meet our heating and energy requirements. Many of our communities are required to burn large volumes of diesel in order to ensure that power is provided to the residents of different communities. Our economy is at a very elementary stage in many cases, but we do have some industry, mines that also require large volumes of fossil fuels to be consumed. That is really what the basis is, for looking at greenhouse gas emissions in the Northwest Territories.
As a strategy, we have been discussing amongst our officials, and with certain stakeholders like the Power Corporation and other agencies, sharing analysis of the situation as we see it in the north, providing some information and an analysis of how the rest of the country will work to try to meet the commitments Canada made and keeping stakeholders, like I said, the Power Corporation, briefed on the developments as they occur with the ongoing commitments Canada will be making internationally on how we will meet these commitments.
We have, and are currently still discussing with stakeholders, how these targets will impact on our economy, whether or not, in fact, there can be seen a reduction in the greenhouse gas emissions in the Northwest Territories. Clearly, we do have some work to be done to develop a strategy and that is basically the picture as it is today. Thank you.
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Michael Miltenberger
Thebacha
Mr. Speaker, could the Minister indicate with a little more specificity, the time frames? Initial discussions have started, but what is the hope in terms of having a document strategy that is complete that can be brought forward? How long does he anticipate this is going to take? Thank you.
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