Nunavut Canada LEGISLATIVE ASSEMBLY OF NUNAVUT 2nd Session 6th Assembly HANSARD Official Report DAY 45 Monday, May 29, 2023 Pages 2903 – 2966 Iqaluit Speaker: The Honourable Tony Akoak, MLA

Legislative Assembly of Nunavut Speaker Hon. Tony Akoak (Gjoa Haven) Officers Clerk John Quirke Clerk Assistant Stephen Innuksuk Law Clerk Michael Chandler Sergeant-at-Arms Michel Albert Hansard Production Innirvik Support Services Box 1200 Iqaluit, Nunavut, X0A 0H0 Tel (867) 975-5000 Fax (867) 975-5190 Toll-Free (877) 334-7266 Hon. David Akeeagok (Quttiktuq) Minister of Economic Development and Transportation; Minister of Justice; Minister responsible for Labour Hon. P.J.

Akeeagok (Iqaluit-Niaqunnguu) Premier; Minister of Executive and Intergovernmental Affairs; Minister responsible for Immigration; Minister responsible for Indigenous Affairs; Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy Corporation Bobby Anavilok (Kugluktuk) Janet Brewster (Iqaluit-Sinaa) Hon. Pamela Gross (Cambridge Bay) Deputy Premier; Minister of Culture and Heritage; Minister of Education; Minister of Languages; Minister responsible for Seniors George Hickes (Iqaluit-Tasiluk) Deputy Speaker and Chair of the Committee of the Whole Hon.

David Joanasie (South Baffin) Government House Leader; Minister of Community and Government Services; Minister responsible for the Utility Rates Review Council Joelie Kaernerk (Amittuq) Mary Killiktee (Uqqummiut) Hon. Lorne Kusugak (Rankin Inlet South) Minister of Finance, Chair of the Financial Management Board; Minister responsible for the Nunavut Housing Corporation Adam Lightstone (Iqaluit-Manirajak) Hon. John Main (Arviat North-Whale Cove) Minister of Health; Minister responsible for Suicide Prevention Solomon Malliki (Aivilik) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Hon.

Margaret Nakashuk (Pangnirtung) Minister of Family Services; Minister responsible for Homelessness; Minister of Human Resources; Minister responsible for the Status of Women; Minister responsible for the Workers’ Safety and Compensation Commission Karen Nutarak (Tununiq) Daniel Qavvik (Hudson Bay) Hon.

Joanna Quassa (Aggu) Minister of Energy; Minister of Environment; Minister responsible for Nunavut Arctic College Inagayuk Quqqiaq (Netsilik) Alexander Sammurtok (Rankin Inlet North-Chesterfield Inlet) Joe Savikataaq (Arviat South) Deputy Chair, Committee of the Whole Craig Simailak (Baker Lake) Website: www.assembly.nu.ca

Table of Contents Opening Prayer ...........................................................................................................................2903 Ministers’ Statements .................................................................................................................2903 Members’ Statements .................................................................................................................2908 Returns to Oral Questions ..........................................................................................................2915 Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery ........................................................................................2916 Oral Questions ............................................................................................................................2916 Tabling of Documents ................................................................................................................2937 Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters ......................................2939 Report of the Committee of the Whole ......................................................................................2965 Third Reading of Bills ................................................................................................................2965 Orders of the Day .......................................................................................................................2965

A. Daily References Monday, May 29, 2023 ..............................................................................................................2903 B.

Ministers’ Statements 234 – 6(2): Long-term Care in Nunavut (Main) .........................................................................2903 235 – 6(2): Guidance Counsellors (Gross) .................................................................................2904 236 – 6(2): Lottery Administration Training (Joanasie) ............................................................2904 237 – 6(2): Improvements to the Wolf Sample Collection Program (Quassa) ...........................2905 238 – 6(2): Sustainable Canadian Agricultural Partnership Agreement (Akeeagok, D) ............2906 239 – 6(2): Meeting with Minister Qualtrough (Nakashuk) .......................................................2906 240 – 6(2): Qulliq Energy Corporation’s New Baker Lake Head Office Open for Business (Akeeagok, P) ......................................................................................................................2907 C.

Members’ Statements 305 – 6(2): Congratulations to Coral Harbour Recipients of the Nunavut Commissioner’s Awards (Malliki) ...............................................................................................................................2908 306 – 6(2): Hockey Activity in Pond Inlet (Nutarak) .................................................................2908 307 – 6(2): Problems with Adoption Process (Killiktee) ...........................................................2909 308 – 6(2): Condolences to Kugluktuk Family (Anavilok) ........................................................2910 309 – 6(2): Kugaaruk Hockey Tournament (Quqqiaq) ..............................................................2910 310 – 6(2): Happy Retirement to Three School Workers in Baker Lake (Simailak) .................2911 311 – 6(2): Katujjiluta Mandate (Kaernerk) ...............................................................................2912 312 – 6(2): Happy Birthday to Uncle (Quassa) ..........................................................................2912 313 – 6(2): Commissioner’s Award Recipients in Cambridge Bay (Gross) ..............................2912 314 – 6(2): Community Radio Operators in Arviat and Whale Cove (Main) ............................2913

315 – 6(2): Arctic Bay Hockey Tournament (Akeeagok, D) .....................................................2914 316 – 6(2): Pangnirtung High School Graduates (Nakashuk) ....................................................2915 D. Returns to Oral Questions Return to Oral Question 440 – 6(2): Federal Funding for Shelters (Nakashuk) ........................2915 E.

Oral Questions 462 – 6(2): Katujjiluta Mandate (Kaernerk) ...............................................................................2916 463 – 6(2): Replacement Health Centre for Baker Lake (Simailak) ..........................................2919 464 – 6(2): Grants and Contributions Program (Quqqiaq) .........................................................2920 465 – 6(2): Chesterfield Inlet Airport Terminal Building (Sammurtok) ....................................2922 466 – 6(2): Naujaat Community Hall (Malliki)..........................................................................2924 467 – 6(2): Activities of the Makigiaqta Inuit Training Corporation (Lightstone) ....................2925 468 – 6(2): Southern Hudson Bay Polar Bear Management (Qavvik) .......................................2927 469 – 6(2): Wolf Sampling and Collection Program (Savikataaq).............................................2928 470 – 6(2): Ethics Officer and Healthy Workplaces (Nutarak) ..................................................2930 471 – 6(2): Problems with Adoption Process (Killiktee) ...........................................................2932 472 – 6(2): Kugluktuk Power Plant (Anavilok) .........................................................................2934 473 – 6(2): Subsea Fibre Project (Hickes) .................................................................................2935 F.

Tabling of Documents 137 – 6(2): Government of Nunavut Drinking Water Strategic Framework (Joanasie) ............2937 138 – 6(2): Unlawful Property Forfeiture Act 2021-22 Annual Report (Akeeagok, D) ............2938 139 – 6(2): Provincial and Territorial Ministers of Education Meeting – July 5, 2022 (Gross) 2938 140 – 6(2): Student Loan Fund March 31, 2021 (Gross) ...........................................................2938

141 – 6(2): Student Loan Fund March 31, 2022 (Gross) ...........................................................2938 142 – 6(2): Cannabis Licensing 2022-23 Annual Report (Kusugak) .........................................2938 143 – 6(2): Nunavut Liquor and Cannabis Board 2021-22 Annual Report (Kusugak) ..............2938 144 – 6(2): Inuusivut Anninaqtuq Action Plan 2017-2022 (Main) ............................................2938 G.

Bills Bill 24 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. 1, 2023-2024 – Consideration in Committee ................................................................................................2939 Bill 25 – Supplementary Appropriation (Capital) Act, No. 2, 2023-2024 – Consideration in Committee ............................................................................................................................2959 Bill 24 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. 1, 2023-2024 – Third Reading ......................................................................................................................2965

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2903 Iqaluit, Nunavut Monday, May 29, 2023 Members Present: Hon. David Akeeagok, Hon. P.J. Akeeagok, Hon. Tony Akoak, Mr. Bobby Anavilok, Ms. Janet Brewster, Hon. Pamela Gross, Mr. George Hickes, Hon. David Joanasie, Mr. Joelie Kaernerk, Ms. Mary Killiktee, Hon. Lorne Kusugak, Mr. Adam Lightstone, Hon. John Main, Mr. Solomon Malliki, Hon. Margaret Nakashuk, Ms. Karen Nutarak, Mr. Daniel Qavvik, Hon. Joanna Quassa, Mr. Inagayuk Quqqiaq, Mr. Alexander Sammurtok, Mr. Joe Savikataaq, Mr. Craig Simailak. >>House commenced at 13:29 Item 1: Opening Prayer Speaker (Hon.

Tony Akoak) (interpretation): Before we begin, Mr. Anavilok, can you say the opening prayer, please. >>Prayer Speaker (interpretation): Thank you. Good day to my colleagues. (interpretation ends) I hope you had a good weekend, everyone. Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Health, Mr. Main. Item 2: Ministers’ Statements Minister’s Statement 234 – 6(2): Long-term Care in Nunavut (Main) Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good day, my colleagues. Mr.

Speaker, the Department of Health is committed to meeting the needs of our elders and helping them age closer to home. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, many Nunavummiut care for their elderly family members who have complex needs, chronic illness, or disabilities; however, the caregiving process can be lengthy and demanding. Home care services are a support that Health provides to help keep elders at home for as long as possible. When an elder’s needs exceed the at-home capacity, long- term care is provided to Nunavummiut free of charge for as long as needed.

Currently under construction, the Rankin Inlet Long-term Care Centre will increase our in-territory capacity significantly. This 24-bed territorial long-term care facility is scheduled for completion in late fall 2023. Between February and April 2024, we are planning to admit some elders currently being cared for out-of-territory at Embassy West in Ottawa. The Rankin Inlet Long-term Care Centre is part of the first phase of growing our in-territory senior care capacity.

We also plan to construct a new facility in Cambridge Bay and one in Iqaluit and are in discussions with the Nunasi Corporation with regard to a potential partnership for these future facilities. Uqaqtitsijii, we are also working to enhance the programming in existing facilities. In February 2023, three members of the recreation therapy team from Cambridge Bay, Gjoa Haven, and Igloolik received in-person training, knowledge sharing, and mentoring in Yellowknife at the AVENS long-term

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2904 care campus. This training has enhanced recreation programs in the continuing care centres and has seen our staff involve seniors in new activities. We are also continuing to work with our partners at Nunavut Arctic College as they develop a personal support worker certificate program. This program will create and produce skilled employees who will be in demand for work at long- term care facilities and home care programs throughout the territory. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Education, Ms. Gross.

Minister’s Statement 235 – 6(2): Guidance Counsellors (Gross) Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker. Quana and good day to everybody in Nunavut and everyone here in the House with us today. Mr. Speaker, it’s my pleasure to announce that through the changes we have made to our staff funding formula, the Department of Education has designated funding to hire one guidance counsellor in every high school across Nunavut.

This is exciting news because before this funding was in place, district education authorities and schools had to make a tough decision whether to use funding to hire a teacher or a guidance counsellor. Most went with teachers to provide more course applications for students. Mr. Speaker, guidance counsellors provide a bridge for students to further education and career opportunities. They provide important information about choosing the right courses that align with their interests and potential career paths.

They help students navigate the application process for universities, colleges, or other training they might be interested in. Guidance counsellors also direct students to the ilinniarvimmi inuusilirijiit, or school community counsellors, who provide wellness counselling. We currently only have a handful of guidance counsellors across the territory. We’re looking forward to hiring more people into this much-needed position and giving students another avenue for success. Quana, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie.

Minister’s Statement 236 – 6(2): Lottery Administration Training (Joanasie) Hon. David Joanasie (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good day to the MLAs and Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, it is my pleasure to share that the Consumer Affairs

Section recently conducted lottery administration training in the communities of Baker Lake, Igloolik, and Sanirajak. On behalf of the Consumer Affairs Section, I would like to express my gratitude to the hamlets for their warm and generous hospitality. Mr. Speaker, in the essence of Pilimmaksarniq, the training involved clarifying roles and responsibilities of

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2905 charitable and religious organizations in conducting lotteries under the Criminal Code, Lotteries Act and its regulations. It also included increased attention on financial reporting and accountability. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, the response we have received from dedicated community members was promising and it will enable Consumer Affairs to establish ongoing, consistent support to municipalities and organizations that hold lotteries. We hope that these lotteries enable them to provide and support community-based needs. Mr.

Speaker, Consumer Affairs plans to conduct more in-community trainings and is currently collaborating with the Department of Executive and Intergovernmental Affairs through their Government Liaison Officer Program to increase support available to both delegated and non-delegated communities. We look forward to strengthening relationships with stakeholders and improving our service delivery. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Minister’s Statement 237 – 6(2): Improvements to the Wolf Sample Collection Program (Quassa) Hon.

Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good day to my colleagues, the visitors in the gallery, and to Nunavummiut. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to inform the House of the new improvements to my department’s Wolf Sample Collection Program. This program compensates harvesters for submitting skulls, skin samples, and harvest information from wolves that they have harvested. It was introduced as a pilot program in 2018 in a few communities and then expanded to all of Nunavut in 2019.

Under the old program, harvesters were paid $300 for every sample submitted out of our Support for Active Harvesters budget. Mr. Speaker, under the recently approved program, harvesters will get paid an increased amount of $500 for samples submitted from harvested wolves across Nunavut. In some areas where caribou populations are in decline, such as the Bluenose, Bathurst and Dolphin-Union herds, this payment will be $900 for each sample.

This program now has a dedicated budget of $500,000 per year, which is allocated to pay hunters for submitting the skull, skin, and harvest information from wolves that they have harvested. We have started to streamline the process in which hunters receive their money. The improvements of the program will not only get the harvesters their money faster, but also improve the ability of my department to monitor the budget and track all sample payments, improving our financial accountability. Mr.

Speaker, my department is committed to enhancing the support for harvesters provided to Nunavummiut with financial opportunities to be able to offset the increasing costs of being an active harvester, while also providing valuable information to our wildlife biologists. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2906 >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Economic Development and Transportation, Mr. David Akeeagok. Minister’s Statement 238 – 6(2): Sustainable Canadian Agricultural Partnership Agreement (Akeeagok,

D) Hon. David Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I am very pleased to announce today that my department has signed the Sustainable Canadian Agricultural Partnership Agreement with Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada, and our provincial and territorial counterparts. Nunavut’s harvesting and processing sector will receive $3.05 million in additional investments in areas such as harvesting-related research, training, infrastructure development, food security, and green energy initiatives. The agreement came into effect on April 1, 2023 and will extend into March 2028.

The priorities of the partnership agreement align very closely with strategic priorities set out by our government under Katujjiluta. It includes enabling health and healing, reinvesting in education, and diversifying our local economies in ways that reflect Inuit societal values and Inuit piqqusingit iliqqusingillu aturlugit. I encourage communities and community organizations that are interested in applying for program assistance under the Country Food Distribution Program to contact our local economic development officers in their community.

They can also reach my department through our regional offices in the Kitikmeot, Kivalliq, and Qikiqtaaluk. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister of Family Services, Ms. Nakashuk. Minister’s Statement 239 – 6(2): Meeting with Minister Qualtrough (Nakashuk) Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon and I say “good day” to Nunavummiut. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, the Department of Family Services recognizes the urgent need to enhance and further develop pre-employment training opportunities for Nunavummiut.

With this goal in mind, I recently met with Hon. Carla Qualtrough, Minister of Employment, Workforce Development and Disability Inclusion as part of the “Nunavut on the Hill” event in Ottawa. During the meeting, I advised Minister Qualtrough that we are seeking a supplemental Labour Market Transfer Agreement to fund the additional costs to raise literacy and education rates for Nunavut Inuit to better align with the national average.

The department hopes to use these additional funds to place literacy and numeracy professionals and career development officers in each of Nunavut’s communities to help prepare Nunavummiut to access pre-employment training opportunities. We also discussed how my department can further increase support for persons with disabilities in Nunavut.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2907 Mr. Speaker, our discussions were productive, and I look forward to working more closely with Minister Qualtrough as we fulfil the priorities in the Katujjiluta mandate. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Ministers’ Statements. Hon. Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy Corporation, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Minister’s Statement 240 – 6(2): Qulliq Energy Corporation’s New Baker Lake Head Office Open for Business (Akeeagok,

P) Hon. P.J. Akeeagok (interpretation): Good afternoon and thank you, Mr. Speaker and fellow MLAs. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, the Qulliq Energy Corporation is excited to announce that the corporation’s brand- new head office in Baker Lake is open for business. The utility’s administrative employees and services are now available at 3091 6th Street for those customers wishing to pay their bills or make enquiries in person. Its construction is a testament to the QEC’s significant investment in better serving customers across the territory and supporting the local community. Mr.

Speaker, the new facility also marks an important milestone for the corporation and its employees. With the introduction of a unified and organized work environment, it will better benefit staff experience and demonstrates the corporation’s commitment to building spaces that improve conditions and morale. Mr. Speaker, the benefits of effectively occupying one space is already evidenced in comfortable office accommodations and energy-efficient technology intended to minimize the QEC’s environmental impact.

The corporation continues to aim for an Energy Star building certification for this state-of-the-art facility. If successful after a 12-month assessment period, it will be the first of its kind in Canada’s northern territories to achieve this status. Mr. Speaker, the building’s careful, creative and responsible design work focused on unique features using affordable building materials and equipment. Long-lasting environmental and financial benefits include reducing greenhouse gas emissions and saving on building operation and maintenance costs.

The corporation would like to thank the community of Baker Lake for its patience during the head office construction and for welcoming such an important facility, vital to providing a critical service. Our gratitude is also extended to the QEC employees for their continued support in making this transition possible. I look forward to the official opening and celebration of such a historical moment in Baker Lake, one that will have a long-lasting impact on local and territorial customers. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Item 3. Members’ Statements. Member for Aivilik, Mr. Malliki.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2908 Item 3: Members’ Statements Member’s Statement 305 – 6(2): Congratulations to Coral Harbour Recipients of the Nunavut Commissioner’s Awards (Malliki) Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to start off by announcing that my paternal grandfather is celebrating his birthday and he just turned 90 years old. I wanted to express my pride in his reaching his 90th birthday. >>Applause Mr. Speaker, I rise today to congratulate a number of constituents in Coral Harbour who received the Nunavut Commissioner’s Awards. (interpretation ends) Mr.

Speaker, in my member’s statement during Friday’s sitting, I had the honour of recognizing several of my constituents in Naujaat for also receiving the Commissioner’s Awards. Mr. Speaker, in December 2022, Nunavut Commissioner Eva Aariak travelled to Coral Harbour for the Commissioner’s Awards ceremony.

Recipients of these awards include the principal and teacher from Sakku School, a youth role model, community members, volunteers, the search and rescue team, volunteer firefighters, elders who are recognized knowledge keepers, as well as individuals who demonstrate bravery and survival instincts during a time of need. Mr. Speaker, time does not permit for me to recognize all 82 of my constituents by name, but I appreciate every one of the recipients whose efforts each make a positive impact in Coral Harbour. Mr.

Speaker, I would like to express gratitude and appreciation to Commissioner Eva Aariak for travelling to Coral Harbour to recognize our dedicated community members. Mr. Speaker, I ask all members to join me in congratulating Coral Harbour recipients of the Commissioner’s award. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Tununiq, Ms. Nutarak. Member’s Statement 306 – 6(2): Hockey Activity in Pond Inlet (Nutarak) Ms. Nutarak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, wish to recognize an individual from Pond Inlet who is part of the recreation committee.

On April 29 to May 1, a hockey tournament was organized in the community with teams being made up of members from the women’s, men’s, girls’ and boys’ hockey teams. Four hockey teams were created, made up of members from each groups. Mr. Speaker, it became a very enjoyable tournament watching the different teams playing against each other as every team tried their best to beat the other side. The Narwhals were the team who won first place, second-place was the White Huskies, third place were the Blue Huskies, and the fourth-place team was Amaruit.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2909 Mr. Speaker, this tournament was especially beneficial for the younger hockey players as they played against older players, and the games were very entertaining. People, as well as parents organized a food court, providing snacks and food using their own funds, and after every game, the players were fed by this group and I especially wish to voice my appreciation. After the tournament, the arena was closed because of warming temperatures. This was the last scheduled set of hockey games, which turned out to be a great season-ending tournament for our local community.

I very thankful to the organizers as they provide various forms of entertainment in our community. Mr. Speaker, I just wanted to acknowledge the organizers as they are providing good activities in our community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Uqqummiut, Ms. Killiktee. Member’s Statement 307 – 6(2): Problems with Adoption Process (Killiktee) Ms. Killiktee (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to address serious concerns regarding the adoption process here in Nunavut. Mr.

Speaker, the process is too lengthy since adoption officials are rarely available to resolve issues related to filling out the required paperwork and it is becoming worrisome for the parents in trying to get them legally registered. Some children are reaching their first birthday before the adoption has been legalized because the paperwork is not being completed. Also, the legal name of the adopted child to the adoptive parents’ name are still not being registered. There seems to be no accountability since no reasons are provided for the endless delays in the process of legal adoptions in our communities. Mr.

Speaker, because of the extensive period of time for this process, it is creating significant issues for some families, especially when the adopted parents in the communities are being denied the additional funds for their adopted child, and this is atop of the delays proving that the child is now adopted into their families. So it impacts their income assistance if the legal paperwork is delayed or not completed. For these reasons and the delay in the adoption process, it also creates the inability to apply for child tax credits.

It can also delay the process to apply for a birth certificate or social insurance number, which becomes more and more necessary as time goes on. Mr. Speaker, I am aware that most communities have custom adoption commissioners who fill out the paperwork. Mr. Speaker, I would like to seek unanimous consent to conclude my statement. Thank you. Speaker: The member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? There are none. Please continue, Ms. Killiktee.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2910 Ms. Killiktee (interpretation): Thank you for providing me additional time to conclude my statement. To start again, Mr. Speaker, I’m aware that most communities have custom adoption commissioners who fill out the paperwork to recognize that a traditional Inuit custom adoption has taken place. The paperwork has to be legally registered. For those communities who do not have custom adoption commissioners, the delay in having custom adoptions recognized is even worse. Mr.

Speaker, they could be grandparents adopting their grandchild or family adopting their nieces’ newborn baby. It is important that these adoptions are legally registered in order for the adoptive parents to be able to provide for the adoptee and so that the child has access to the benefits they deserve. Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate time I will be asking questions on this issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Kugluktuk, Mr. Anavilok. Member’s Statement 308 – 6(2): Condolences to Kugluktuk Family (Anavilok) Mr. Anavilok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr.

Speaker, as well as to the people of Kugluktuk, Nunavummiut, and my fellow MLAs. I just want to mention to you that Jack Kaniak from Kugluktuk has passed away. I extend my heartfelt condolences to his wife, Nancy Kaniak, all of his children and relatives. It is very heartbreaking when you lose a loved one, but we have to move ahead. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Netsilik, Mr. Quqqiaq. Member’s Statement 309 – 6(2): Kugaaruk Hockey Tournament (Quqqiaq) Mr. Quqqiaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise today that on the date of March 30, 2023 to April 2, 2023, the community of Kugaaruk hosted a senior men’s “Tugaalik Cup” hockey tournament. I want to greatly acknowledge tournament organizer, Alex Ittimangnaq, for a well- organized hockey tournament. I was privileged to witness it, and a great success it was. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the communities that took

part in the tournament: Naujaat, who took home the Tugaalik Cup, 2023 champions; second place winners, Igloolik… >>Applause …third place, Kugaaruk Raiders. I also want to thank Taloyoak, Gjoa Haven, as well as the Arvilikruaq hockey team, and Kuugaaruk Narwhalers hockey team and all volunteers and all sponsors, who are Canadian North, Kitikmeot Inuit Association, Hamlet of Kugaaruk, Sabina Gold and Silver, and Kuugmiut Co-op. It was a success. Mr.

Speaker, also on the dates of April 21 to 23, 2023, a friendship hockey tournament [took place] in Gjoa Haven for the youth, and I want to greatly acknowledge the community for their invitation to the youth of my constituent communities of Kugaaruk and Taloyoak. Kugaaruk, sent 36 youth, and I want to

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2911 thank the volunteers who contributed greatly for the youth: • Jesse Ulliaq-Apsaktaun; • Kelsey Apsaktaun; • Emma Keagan; • Richard Kakkianun; • Jason Inutuinaq; • Sheena Kayasark; • Marlene Sanertanut; and • Sheena Tinashlu. Sponsors, minor hockey committee; Hamlet of Kugaaruk, Koomiut Co-op, and Kitikmeot Inuit Association. The Taloyoak youth, in which 53 youth also participated in the friendship tournament, and I want to thank volunteers who were: • Sandra Alookee; • Sam Alookee; • Mona Totalik; • Pameok Pauloosie; and • Candace Pauloosie.

Thank you, Gjoa Haven and friendship tournament organizers. Thank you, greatly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Baker Lake, Mr. Simailak. Member’s Statement 310 – 6(2): Happy Retirement to Three School Workers in Baker Lake (Simailak) Mr. Simailak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good afternoon, colleagues. For the people of Baker Lake, have a good day. Mr. Speaker, I would like to recognize three individuals from Baker Lake: • Nancy Nagyougalik • Becky Tootoo; and • Ituvi Tunnuq (interpretation ends) Mr.

Speaker, all three of these ladies have just recently announced individually that they will be retiring from their workplace at the high school and one from the elementary, Rachel Arngnammaktiq Elementary School. All three of these ladies have contributed in many different ways throughout their careers, helping many students, parents, and other fellow teachers all along the way. Nancy is, or was a janitor. Ituvi and Becky are teachers. This will be their last school year. All three ladies have spent a few decades working in their professions. Mr.

Speaker, all three of these ladies are mothers and are also grandmothers. They will no longer need to follow the clock; they can do what they want, when they want, spend time with their family and grandchildren, go berry picking or go for rides whenever they want, and I’m very happy for them. Thank you, ladies, for your contributions. Congratulations on your many years of service, and I ask my fellow colleagues to help me congratulate them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Amittuq, Mr. Kaernerk.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2912 Member’s Statement 311 – 6(2): Katujjiluta Mandate (Kaernerk) Mr. Kaernerk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to welcome you all. I give my regards to the people of Nunavut and to the people of Amittuq. I would like say to the people of Sanirajak that our children need to be cautious as the ice is starting to deteriorate. Make sure that you keep a watchful eye on your children. Mr.

Speaker, I rise today to talk about the Katujjiluta mandate that was developed in Cambridge Bay between all Members of the Legislative Assembly during a retreat, with the report having been tabled here in the House. I will be asking questions to the Premier of Nunavut about employment and how we can better realign the schools so that we have more participation from elders, especially in the smaller communities. I will be focusing on that subject and I will be asking questions about how the government can address this for the school system that is currently in place.

I would like to thank the Premier and the Minister of Education for visiting our schools in Sanirajak last spring. The minister also talked about all-day kindergarten classes and if that should go ahead in Sanirajak. Also, I’m sure there are going to be some concerns coming from many parents and the teachers. I will have questions in this regard and the Katujjiluta mandate. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Aggu, Ms. Quassa. Member’s Statement 312 – 6(2): Happy Birthday to Uncle (Quassa) Hon. Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I also rise to make a statement of an elder who is celebrating their birthday today, and in wanting to voice my gratitude. I am kind of rushing. I rise to speak about my paternal uncle. Ever since I can remember, he has shown me nothing but love. I send him my love and I wish him a very happy birthday today and wish him many more birthdays in the future. That’s what I wanted to mention. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Cambridge Bay, Ms. Gross. Member’s Statement 313 – 6(2): Commissioner’s Award Recipients in Cambridge Bay (Gross) Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr.

Speaker, and good afternoon to those in Cambridge Bay, particularly my family who are listening in. Mr. Speaker, I would like to thank Commissioner Aariak and her colleague, Wende Halonen, for visiting Cambridge Bay and being in the community for a few days and being able to attend the social service Bachelor of Social Work graduation in the community and then presenting the Commissioner’s Awards on March 25. Mr. Speaker, the Commissioner’s Awards are given for bravery, volunteerism, community service,

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2913 special skills, and youth achievement. Nunavummiut nominate people in their community that they want to have recognized for the efforts that they have made to protect, support and strengthen communities that they live in. I would like to make the following mention of the people of Iqaluktuuttiaq who were awarded this past March. Under the Bravery category, I would like to recognize Kenneth Okhina and Leonard Epilon. Under the Youth Recognition Award, I would like to recognize Eekeeluak Avalak. Under Long-term Community Service, Abe Evegetok and Jimmy Haniliak Sr. Mr.

Speaker, under the Knowledge Keepers Award, I would like to acknowledge people who I have worked with in my past role as Mayor of Cambridge Bay, the Elders Advisory Committee, including Jimmy Haniliak Sr., Eva Kakolak, Mabel Etegik, Annie Atighioyak, Anne Wingnek, Bessie Omilgoetok, and David Evalik. I would also like to recognize other co- workers that I had worked with in my past role when I worked at the Kitikmeot Heritage Society. All of these elders are so invaluable in our community. I would like to recognize Annie Atighioyak, Mary Kaotalok, Bessie Omilgoetok, and Mabel Etegik. Mr.

Speaker, there is also another elder who is a great important person to me; my 95-year-old grandmother, Mr. Speaker. She is not doing so well, so I ask for prayers for her. Our family is going through a really tough time with our matriarch and we acknowledge her beautiful life she has lived, including birthing over 100 babies out on the land, Mr. Speaker. My grannie, Ovilok Neglak, is our pillar to our family. I would also like to recognize Cambridge Bay Volunteer Firefighters for bravery… . Oh sorry, Mr. Speaker. I ask for unanimous consent to conclude my statement.

Speaker: The member is seeking unanimous consent to conclude her statement. Are there any nays? There are none. Please continue, Ms. Gross. Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker, and I apologize. I would like to recognize the Cambridge Bay Volunteer Firefighters for their efforts. There are so many to name, and I’m sorry I don’t have the list of all them here on hand, but also to the volunteer search and rescue team and the volunteer Coast Guard auxiliary for all of their efforts in volunteerism throughout the years. Quana, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements.

Member for Arviat North-Whale Cove, Mr. Main. Member’s Statement 314 – 6(2): Community Radio Operators in Arviat and Whale Cove (Main) Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Good day to the people of Arviat and Whale Cove.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2914 Mr. Speaker, I want to recognize the two radio announcers, so I rise today. Mr. Speaker, due to my new ministerial portfolio, our family has now moved to Iqaluit. However, I never miss a radio show because that’s my current means of keeping my constituents informed of what I am working on and as an MLA, it requires constant communication. When I call the local radio show in Arviat called Arviaqpalluk, sometimes the part- time announcer is Cecilia Kinniksie or Ilaittunaaq. She usually answers as Ilaittunaaq is very skilled, and her music selection is excellent.

I really like the music she plays. Now, when I call the radio station in Whale Cove to the radio show called Isatikpalluk, the person who usually answers, who is also part-time, is actually her daughter, Melanie Kinniksie, so this mother and daughter in the two communities are the ones I wanted to recognize. They are both naturals on the radio and they very much help the two communities with through their work, especially with announcements, and they keep our language very much alive, and this too has many benefits.

I wanted to voice my appreciation of Cecilia Kinniksie and her daughter Melanie, and I thank you two for allowing me to speak to my constituents on the local radio when I need to. I thank you for your dedication to providing an essential community service as skilled radio announcers which I hope you continue to provide. You both make great contributions to your communities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Quttiktuq, Mr. David Akeeagok. Member’s Statement 315 – 6(2): Arctic Bay Hockey Tournament (Akeeagok,

D) Hon. David Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Each year, after the Nunavut Cup annual dogsled race, the Qamutik Cup hockey tournament takes place, and sometimes some of the participants of the dogsled race are also on the hockey teams, and this occurred this year. There were four communities represented at this year’s tournament, and I wanted to voice my pride in the participants who played in this year’s tournament in Arctic Bay, playing for the Qamutik Cup. I am also very pleased that Arctic Bay returned the cup to their community. It felt good to hear that, and I am proud of their efforts.

There were two local teams from Arctic Bay, with the team called Arctic Bay Impact winning the tournament. The captain was Moses Kigutaq, who I am proud of, along with his winning team players. This wasn’t just a hockey tournament; there were organized community-wide events, and I am proud of everyone for hosting them. The community changes annually as the host community is where the Nunavut Quest ends at. In 2024, I hope the winning team retains the cup as the tournament is going to be held in Pond Inlet next year.

This year, Igloolik came in second place, with the third going to Sanirajak, followed by Pond Inlet and the second team from Arctic Bay was in fifth place.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2915 The winning goalie provided a teenaged goalie from outside of the community his (interpretation ends) hockey pads (interpretation) to encourage him to continue practicing being a goalie. I was especially proud of that goalie. They might be rivals on the ice, but afterwards there is friendship all around. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Members’ Statements. Member for Pangnirtung, Ms. Nakashuk. Member’s Statement 316 – 6(2): Pangnirtung High School Graduates (Nakashuk) Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I rise to voice my pride and to congratulate students who will be graduating from (interpretation ends) grade 12. There are 21 graduates listed in Pangnirtung for graduation this year, and I wanted to name them publicly: • Justin Angmarlik • Ben Arnaqaq • Alison Kilabuk • Kailey Kilabuk • Nolan Kuluguqtuq • Terrence Lawson • Charlene Qumuatuq • Martha Joy Qaqasiq • Ben Alivaktuk • Kim Alivaktuk • Maggie Akulukjuk • Annika Akulujuk • Reanna Kuluguqtuq • Tasha Machmer • Martha Nakashuk • Makibi Nakashuk • Rhoda Nashalik • A.J.

Nakashuk • Janelle Keenainak • Myra Young • Paul Angnako Those are the students I wanted to recognize as well as to express my pride in this large graduation class from Pangnirtung’s Attagoyuk Ilisavik. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. >>Applause Speaker: Thank you. Item 4. Returns to Oral Questions. Ms. Nakashuk. Item 4: Returns to Oral Questions Return to Oral Question 440 – 6(2): Federal Funding for Shelters (Nakashuk) Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) On March 3, 2023 the Department of Family Services reached out to… . Oh, this is in regard to the question Mr.

Alex Sammurtok, MLA for Rankin Inlet North and Chesterfield Inlet, had asked on May 25, in regard to federal funding for shelters. Mr. Speaker, on March 3, 2023, the Department of Family Services reached out to Chesterfield Inlet’s senior administrative officer regarding the request for a safe space for community residents. The department also contacted the mayor of the community, and my officials are awaiting a response. If the hamlet wishes to pursue federal funding for a local shelter, my officials are eager to assist in identifying and applying for federal program funding opportunities.

The collaborative partnership between the community and the Department of

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2916 Family Services is vital to the success of these large initiatives. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Item 5. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery. Hon. Premier, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Item 5: Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery Hon. P.J. Akeeagok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker for allowing me to recognize someone very special. Mr. Speaker, I rise today to recognize our Auditor General of Canada, Ms. Karen Hogan. >>Applause Ms.

Hogan is in Iqaluit to release two reports into the Government of Nunavut’s service delivery, which we will see tabled in this House tomorrow, Mr. Speaker. As an Officer of Parliament, Ms. Hogan’s role is to audit the operations of government and identify areas of improvement. She is providing our Legislative Assembly with independent information, assurance, and advice regarding the stewardship of public funds. Mr. Speaker, I wish to welcome to Iqaluit, Ms.

Hogan, and I extend the appreciation of our government for her work promoting accountability and transparency, as we strive for in our work as elected leaders. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation) Please feel welcome. Speaker: Welcome to the Assembly. Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery. Welcome to the Assembly for everyone that sitting. Oral Questions. Item 6. Member for Amittuq, Mr. Kaernerk. Item 6: Oral Questions Question 462 – 6(2): Katujjiluta Mandate (Kaernerk) Mr. Kaernerk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I stated earlier I would be asking questions during question period as to how Katujjiluta is doing. (interpretation ends) According to the Katujjiluta mandate, reinvesting in education on that, let me just point out a few indicators here. On page 38 of the Katujjiluta report here, it states: • “Stronger childhood foundations for Inuit identity, resilience, and learning over time • Higher rates of attendance and school completion • Stronger academic achievements, and the most important one, • Improved linkage between available jobs and post-secondary education and training in the territory.” Now, Mr.

Speaker, as I stated in my member’s statement, I would like to ask a question on the Katujjiluta mandate. I would like to ask the Premier: how does it work with cabinet to decide work or job initiatives that are moving forward in accordance with employment across Nunavut? How are these indicators projected when it comes to the Katujjiluta mandate? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I would like to thank my

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2917 member colleague for asking that question. If I understand the member’s question, he is asking in terms of the progress of investments that we do make in terms of the public service. As a government, as the Premier, it is my duty to look at public service globally and to become the employer of choice. As such, as outlined in the Katujjiluta mandate and the reinvesting in education, we do invest heavily in terms of the work that we do in post- secondary and then the work that we do to see what we could do to bring more employment opportunities into the communities.

As I’ve noted in the past, we are looking at reviewing the decentralization policy and I look forward to providing further updates as we look into that to look at where we stand as a government of where these opportunities are. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Kaernerk. Mr. Kaernerk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yes, I have heard about many ways to improve Nunavut. It states here on page 41 that they created positions for elders in Igloolik, thank you, Arviat, Baker Lake, and Naujaat.

The question that I would like to ask the Premier is in regard to the Premier’s statement about jobs being available in the smaller communities. Jobs are not available in the smaller communities. I would like to ask how you created these jobs. There are elders in Sanirajak, but it doesn’t appear to have an elder representing them. Perhaps I’ll say it that way. For those reasons, I have a question here. As the Premier knows, Sanirajak’s school is getting too small. We don’t have a daycare. As I stated, if full-day kindergarten goes ahead, then perhaps the kindergarten teachers will be more overworked.

I don’t know if that will be the case, but I would like to mention how you allocated the positions to the communities. Why did you start with the larger communities rather than the smaller communities like Sanirajak? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I thank my colleague for mentioning and hosting me in Sanirajak. I really enjoyed our opportunity to visit the school, the incredible vibrant school that we did go to.

I just want to thank my colleague for the invitation that came for us to be able to go to Sanirajak and to meet with the students and to meet with the public servants; the teachers that are there. With that, Mr. Speaker, every department is responsible, through the business planning process, to identify positions and it does go through that. To the first question that was asked; the performance indicators that he referenced were really a snap shot in time of where we are to allow us to be able to base where we’re going. I just wanted to mention that.

Right now, we are looking and always continuing to look at options for positions outside of the communities as noted. We are reviewing the staffing for leaders, but really the question rests with the Department of Education,

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2918 specifically to those positions, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation) Thank you. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Kaernerk. Mr. Kaernerk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I did not hear a response to my second question, so that leads me to believe that perhaps they will not be creating jobs in our smaller communities. In saying that, Mr. Speaker, I wish to ask the minister this other question.

Under the performance indicators in the Katujjiluta mandate, there are 690 Nunavummiut who hold non- apprenticeship trades certificates or diplomas, as previously announced, and that $6.6 million was allocated to the (interpretation ends) Nunavut students program. (interpretation) This is for people who want to learn within Nunavut. Additionally, Mr. Speaker, on the next page, it states that there are 219 Inuktitut-speaking teachers. Furthermore, 75 government employees completed Inuit language training. Mr.

Speaker, if we look at the government’s performance indicators, “The following are 2021-2022 indicators which will be used to track future progress” under the Katujjiluta mandate. Mr. Speaker, are these numbers accurate and truly reflect the goals that you want to achieve under the mandate? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Premier of Nunavut, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also wish to thank the member.

This indeed is a very important matter, particularly when thinking of our elders in our communities, and how we can provide additional benefits and whether we can employ them in another capacity. We are constantly reviewing it from that perspective. In looking at the Katujjiluta mandate, which the member references, many of our initiatives have to be determined by where the starting line is and where we are in terms of this mandate. We need to use a foundation in order to work out the direction we wish to work towards, so these numbers are accurate.

That’s the direction we want to go in and that is why we approach you, the MLAs, whenever we have an idea to turn to a certain direction financially, along with future allocations. I want to work closely with my colleagues to determine if there are other areas to direct our resources to. Right now, we’re looking at elders to ensure their inclusion in resolving potential problems, and how can we accommodate the elders’ knowledge more meaningfully. I believe that was his real question.

We just completed our consultations in the communities, and once that report is completed, we will be able to reference it further and I’ll be able to work with my colleagues on these matters. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Before I go to the next person, just remember that everyone wants to ask questions. Make your

preambles shorter, to the point, and the answers as well. Oral Questions. Member for Baker Lake, Mr. Simailak.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2919 Question 463 – 6(2): Replacement Health Centre for Baker Lake (Simailak) Mr. Simailak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll try to keep it short and succinct. Mr. Speaker, today I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Health. Mr. Speaker, last year the minister visited my beautiful community of Baker Lake, and I’m very glad that he had the opportunity to visit our community health centre and he saw with his own eyes how small and overcrowded it has become for my growing community.

Can the minister summarize how his department evaluates the status of Nunavut’s community health centres, the condition of each facility, the growth of the community population, and other factors to determine which community health centres should be renovated, expanded, or replaced? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Health, Mr. Main. Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I thank the member for the question. I also thank the member for welcoming us to Baker Lake. The problem that Baker Lake has with the health centre right now is that it is not sufficient for the community.

It was built in the 1985 and it is too small and too old now. Baker Lake is a priority for the construction of a new health centre. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, to the question; we look at a number of different factors in terms of looking at which health centre needs upgrading or replacement. We look at the age of the facility, the floor area, and the population projections. There is also facility condition that is looked at. Those are the main factors that are looked at in terms of prioritizing. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Simailak. Mr.

Simailak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the minister for his response. Mr. Speaker, the Government of Nunavut’s five-year capital plan does not yet include a health centre project for the community of Baker Lake. However, the minister has mentioned on more than one occasion that the Baker Lake community health centre was being considered as a capital project in the near future. Can the minister provide an update on whether the Baker Lake Health Centre is currently being considered for a health centre replacement project, and if there are other health centres also being considered.

Where is Baker Lake’s project in the order of priority? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Health, Mr. Main. Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) In terms of the list of priorities, Qikiqtarjuaq is at the top right now. I think we have made that clear. I had the pleasure of bringing the federal health minister to Qikiqtarjuaq and he saw with his own eyes how inadequate and quite sad, to be frank, that facility is. Not to say that the staff and the community

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2920 aren’t amazing, but the infrastructure in that case is quite troubling to see with your own eyes. Baker Lake is the next facility on our list of prioritization behind Qikiqtarjuaq, Mr. Speaker. I want to mention that our federal partners are now well aware of the inadequacy and the existence of incredible need for more health infrastructure across Nunavut. That is talking about health centers, but also looking at long-term care, Mr.

Speaker, and I am hopeful that now that they have realized how big the needs are, I am hopeful that there will be some recognition and some support from those important federal partners. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Simailak. Mr. Simailak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thank the minister for the response again. I’m glad Baker Lake is still second to Qikiqtarjuaq. I’m sure looking forward to when that can come to fruition for realization of construction. Mr.

Speaker, as the minister saw for himself, the current Baker Lake health centre is much too small for our community. When walking into the health centre, one has to walk over piles of footwear and try not to trip. There is hardly enough room for regular health services delivery, and even less room for visiting specialists. Meanwhile, the tuberculosis screening clinic is basically an oversized closet. The community of Baker Lake continues to grow. The need for replacement of our health centre is becoming more and more desperate.

Can the minister tell this House when he anticipates Baker Lake will be opening the doors of its new replacement health centre? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Health, Mr. Main. Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I know that the member won’t be happy with this response, but I can’t give a firm a date.

I can say “as soon as possible” and “as soon as possible” depends on the available funding resources that we are able to secure, and also with the caveat that through the capital planning process, we have limited capital funds and so we put our priorities forward, but there are infrastructure needs in other areas. Mr. Speaker, I want to acknowledge that the infrastructure issues in Baker Lake are ongoing. It’s happening today, tomorrow, and the next day.

In terms of trying to address the needs in advance of a new health centre being constructed, we are looking to repurpose the Martha Taliruq Centre, which is just across the road from the health centre, to make it usable workspace, which would include some health programming. That’s a stopgap measure because we do realize the real impacts that inadequate infrastructure has on the community members. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Netsilik, Mr. Quqqiaq. Question 464 – 6(2): Grants and Contributions Program (Quqqiaq) Mr. Quqqiaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions are for the Minister of Culture and Heritage and they concern

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2921 her department’s grants and contribution program. Mr. Speaker, a number of my constituents in Kugaaruk have shown interest in creating community-led elders and youth initiatives to help promote the transfer of traditional knowledge to the youth in our community. Mr. Speaker, I understand and appreciate that the department’s Elders and Youth Branch provides various services and supports for community-based elders and youth initiatives. Mr.

Speaker, the Elders and Youth Initiatives under the department’s grants and contributions program “supports community-led program design and implementation.” Mr. Speaker, can the minister clarify if there are supports available within her department to assist elders with their applications to access her department’s funding resources? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Culture and Heritage, Ms. Gross. Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker. Quana to the member for the question for his constituency of Taloyoak and Kugaaruk.

I can say that the Department of Culture and Heritage has great program funding out there and has recently increased the funding pots. Under this category for elder and youth grants, the contributions have gone from a total pot of $800,000 to over $2.25 million. We will see a substantial increase to program funding and we have the contributions and grants available for community non-profits, hamlets, or others who wish to run programs in their community. I would like to thank those that run those very valuable community programs, Mr. Speaker.

In terms of working with elders, it’s our goal that we have community liaison officers in our communities who are there to support community members. Also, the department travels to communities to work on proposal writing and teach communities how to work on proposals. Mr.

Speaker, it’s my understanding that the Department of Culture and Heritage will be going to Taloyoak this year to work with the community on that specific project because the Department of Culture and Heritage hasn’t received applications from that community and we look forward to having community members avail from this pot of funding and the other pots of funding. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Quqqiaq. Mr. Quqqiaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On November 18, 2022 the Department of Culture and Heritage issued a public service announcement regarding a call for grants and contributions proposals for the 2023-24 fiscal year. Mr. Speaker, I understand that the public service announcement indicates that the deadline to apply for the 2023-24 grants and contributions funding was on January 31, 2023. Mr. Speaker, can the minister confirm whether or not an application will still be accepted and considered if an

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2922 application is submitted past the January 31 deadline? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Culture and Heritage, Ms. Gross. Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker. Quana to our colleague for that great question. Mr.

Speaker, if there is still funding available in the pot of funding that’s there that hasn’t been allocated to other organizations or non- profits, the department does allocate after proposals have been received and we look forward to more communities, including his constituency, applying to these pots of funding that are available and so yes, we do when available. If they do submit after the deadline, we will take those into consideration if there is still money available for them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Quqqiaq. Mr. Quqqiaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On November 30, 2022 the Department of Culture and Heritage held a grants and contributions program public presentation in Naujaat. I applaud the department for holding these information sessions in communities that haven’t submitted applications so they have the opportunity to learn more about what supports are available through the department’s grants and contribution program. Mr. Speaker, the department’s business plan indicates that its current priority is to plan and deliver a grants and contribution session in the Kitikmeot region.

The minister’s predecessor had indicated in the previous winter sitting that the department was still planning what Kitikmeot community they would be holding an information session. To my understanding, they will be going to Taloyoak. Can the minister clarify if the department can also go to the community of Kugaaruk? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Culture and Heritage, Ms. Gross. Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker. Quana for that question. Yes, the department is going to be planning to go to Taloyoak.

As I mentioned earlier, we will be going in the coming months to Taloyoak to deliver training with stakeholders, such as working with the government liaison officer, the hamlet, and others who avail and can use this funding, such as non-profit organizations. Mr. Speaker, in terms of the other constituency community of Kugaaruk, we can’t commit to that visit at this point, but we can explore that option and I can get back to the member on the availability and if we’re able to do that this fiscal year. It has been noted that he would like us to visit. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions.

Member for Rankin Inlet North-Chesterfield Inlet, Mr. Sammurtok. Question 465 – 6(2): Chesterfield Inlet Airport Terminal Building (Sammurtok) Mr. Sammurtok (interpretation): Good day to the people of Chesterfield Inlet and Rankin Inlet and Nunavummiut.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2923 (interpretation ends) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Economic Development and Transportation. As the minister is aware, the community of Chesterfield Inlet needs a new airport terminal building. This is an issue that I have raised on many occasions, and I have tabled photographs in this House that clearly show the poor condition of the current facility.

As the minister will recall, a number of unsuccessful tenders were issued in recent years for the construction of the new airport terminal buildings in Chesterfield Inlet, Naujaat, and Whale Cove. Mr. Speaker, I am happy that the most recent tender has been awarded to a company to perform this work. The tender was awarded on March 22, 2023. Can the minister confirm the timeline for when construction will begin on Chesterfield Inlet’s new airport terminal building? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Economic Development and Transportation, Mr. David Akeeagok. Hon.

David Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Indeed, these are important matters that I enjoy and I thank my fellow members for having agreed to this supplemental funding allocation request, and this work will commence shortly. The tenders are now closed and we anticipate the start of the construction phase this fall, and if the work follows the schedule, then the construction ought to be completed in two years. However, I cannot state the exact completion date right now, but I am quite pleased the projects were agreed to. I appreciate the approval for the additional funding from my colleagues.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Sammurtok. Mr. Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the minister is aware, the tender was awarded for the construction of new airport terminal buildings in three different Kivalliq communities, including Chesterfield Inlet. Can the minister confirm if the designs for all three airport terminal buildings are substantially the same? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Economic Development and Transportation, Mr. David Akeeagok. Hon. David Akeeagok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yes, I can confirm, but each community went through the planning and design phase. I don’t know what the difference would be within the three projects that were within the Kivalliq. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Sammurtok. Mr. Sammurtok: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The department’s request for tender for the construction of Chesterfield Inlet’s new airport terminal building indicated that the minimum Inuit labour requirement for the project is 35 percent. Can the minister clarify what percentage has been committed to

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2924 by the successful bidder? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Economic Development and Transportation, Mr. David Akeeagok. Hon. David Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With regard to the terms or other details, I haven’t had the chance to review the terms provided to the successful bidder. However, during the planning phase, they listed 35 percent as the minimum requirement for Inuit labour requirements. I have requested that this remain as the minimum, but if we are to increase it, I would not have a problem with 100 percent.

That would be my preference. However, I do not know what percentage this minimum labour requirement is, so I cannot speak to it now. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Aivilik, Mr. Malliki. Question 466 – 6(2): Naujaat Community Hall (Malliki) Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister of Community and Government Services. (interpretation ends) As the minister will recall, the community of Naujaat suffered a major loss last year when our community hall was destroyed by fire.

The loss of this infrastructure has had a very negative impact on the community. Earlier this year, I was proud to present a petition that was signed by over 100 of my constituents. The petition called for a new community hall for Naujaat. In his response to the petition, the minister indicated that the municipality needs to “place a claim with the insurer” as the hall was covered by the Nunavut Association of Municipalities Insurance Exchange. Can the minister confirm if his department has been requested to assist the municipality in the insurance claim process? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Hon. Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I had the privilege of visiting Naujaat just two short weeks ago and this was a topic of interest from my colleague from Aivilik as well as the mayor and council. Mr. Speaker, to date we haven’t received a request for support through this insurance claim process, but we are ready to engage. I’ve had conversations with the mayor and we’re expecting that to go through at the earliest opportunity. We will continue to work with the Hamlet of Naujaat and hopefully we can get this in order very soon.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to thank the minister for visiting Naujaat. (interpretation ends) In his response to the petition that I presented on behalf of the community, the minister also indicated that “once the hamlet initiates the claim process, the Department of Community and Government Services

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2925 will provide support to the municipal administration as they begin the process of replacing the community hall.” Can the minister confirm if a new community hall for Naujaat will be included in his department’s five-year capital plan, or will the municipality be responsible for the tendering process? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I again thank the member for his questioning around this important municipal asset.

Since it was a municipally owned asset and through the insurance that hamlets have, as far as I understand, it would be hamlet led, but we would be willing to support around this. As far as I know, we have no plans to put a new community hall through the Government of Nunavut’s capital planning process at this time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker and I also thank the minister for that response.

That is not what I wanted to hear. (interpretation ends) Can the minister indicate what the approximate cost is for the design and construction of a new community hall for a municipality the size of Naujaat? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am not going to share any figures around approximate costs for design or building. I do not have that information and I don’t want to give figures that might be relied upon at this time.

Again, our department is willing to support the municipality of Naujaat to submit to submit a claim through NAMIX. Hopefully through that we would see something that would be sizeable for the community. We’re willing to support around this and we hope to get that support letter or email from the mayor or council as soon as we’re ready. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit-Manirajak, Mr. Lightstone. Question 467 – 6(2): Activities of the Makigiaqta Inuit Training Corporation (Lightstone) Mr. Lightstone: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions today are for the Minister of Human Resources as one of the two cabinet members who currently sit on the board of the Makigiaqta Training Corporation. Mr. Speaker, information published by Makigiaqta indicates that the corporation was established to provide funding and other support for training initiatives that will provide Inuit with skills and qualifications for employment. Mr. Speaker, I strongly support initiatives and programs that will enhance the ability of Inuit to gain the necessary skills and accreditation to fill positions in the public service.

As the minister is aware, Makigiaqta’s board of directors is responsible for approving funding proposals. I would like to ask:

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2926 can the minister clearly describe the process by which she and her colleagues on the corporation’s board of directors evaluate the funding proposals that are submitted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Human Resources, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for your question. As you are aware, we are working with Nunavut Tunngavik and (interpretation ends) the Department of Executive and Intergovernmental Affairs (interpretation) to do the review of all the applications.

We review the applications and work with Nunavut Tunngavik staff. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Lightstone. Mr. Lightstone: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to thank the minister for that response. I would like to ask the minister if she would be able to confirm if the Government of Nunavut is able to submit proposals for the consideration of the Board of Directors of the Makigiaqta Training Corporation, and provide details of whether proposals have been approved over the last 12 months, and/or rejected. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Human Resources, Ms.

Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the member for the question. The applications are usually given to Nunavut Tunngavik, and they give them to our department for review. Since I have taken this on, I am not aware of any rejections, but I have seen different applications. The board met back in January and that is all I can respond with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Lightstone. Mr. Lightstone: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As the Government of Nunavut’s most recent Human Resource Strategy indicates, most of the government’s occupations involve post- secondary education, and/or, experience. As recently as 2018, 55 percent of positions in the GN required university degrees, and a further 24 percent required diplomas or trades qualifications. Mr. Speaker, I strongly believe that the Government of Nunavut requires medium, as well as long-term plans to train Inuit to gain these essential skills and qualifications. Mr.

Speaker, it is unclear whether the Government of Nunavut has been utilizing Makigiaqta training funds to meet these objectives. I understand and recognize that the Government of Nunavut does not directly fund the operations of the training corporation. However, I believe that it is important for the corporation to be accountable and transparent to the public.

I would like to ask if the minister will commit to working with the other members of the board of directors to ensure that the corporation reports annually on its expenditures and activities, and that this reporting includes detailed information on the outcomes

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2927 and results of its funded programs. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Human Resources, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for asking that question. This matter can be further reviewed and perhaps we can look at how best to bring it forward for these applications. However, I believe Human Resources already conducted a review on the improvements required as this is part of our review process.

Further, with respect to GN staff, this falls under Inuit training needs and we did a comprehensive review outside of Makigiaqta, but through the specific Human Resources departmental review process. This is still under that review process on whether or not this can move forward, and also to determine whether better training programs exist. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Hudson Bay, Mr. Qavvik. Question 468 – 6(2): Southern Hudson Bay Polar Bear Management (Qavvik) Mr. Qavvik (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the new Minister of Environment. Mr.

Speaker, as the minister is aware, Sanikiluaq’s Hunters and Trappers Association is committed to the responsible and sustainable harvest of the Southern Hudson Bay polar bear population. The harvest has important economic and cultural benefits for my constituents. As the minister will recall, I asked questions to her predecessor during our recent winter sitting concerning the issue of the southern Hudson Bay polar bear population.

At that time, I raised concerns regarding the federal government’s arbitrary decision to stop issuing export permits for hides that have been harvested from the southern Hudson Bay polar bear population. It is my understanding that the new minister met with her federal counterpart after the winter sitting to discuss this issue while he was in Iqaluit for an announcement. Can the minister update the House today on the outcome of these discussions? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon. Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to thank my colleague for asking for that update. My federal counterpart did come and yes, I am very pleased to say that we had discussions on this subject. After those discussions, the decision not to allow export permits was lifted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Qavvik. Mr. Qavvik (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to say it properly in

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2928 Inuktitut, but I will speak in English at this time, if that is okay. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, when I raised this issue during our winter sitting, I emphasized the importance of ensuring that Sanikiluaq Hunters and Trappers Organization is kept informed and involved about this situation. Can the minister indicate what discussions she has had with the Chairperson and members of the Sanikiluaq Hunters and Trappers Association regarding this issue? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon.

Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my colleague asking that question. The Sanikiluaq Hunters and Trappers Organization was informed by way of correspondence on May 12, 2023. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Qavvik. Mr. Qavvik: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When I raised this issue during our winter sitting, the minister’s predecessor stated that “the community has been phenomenal in doing their role as management, and it is not acceptable for them to be punished like this.” Mr.

Speaker, I appreciated the minister’s words and I was very glad that the government is willing to stand up for the hunters of Sanikiluaq. Can the minister clarify what compensation will be available for Sanikiluaq’s hunters in the event that the federal ban on issuing export permits is not lifted? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon. Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to thank my colleague for his question. The ban was very short.

They can now export polar bear hides starting in May, and because of the short ban, and because of the lifting of the ban, we have not set up a compensation system since the ban has been lifted. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Arviat South, Mr. Savikataaq. Question 469 – 6(2): Wolf Sampling and Collection Program (Savikataaq) Mr. Savikataaq (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the people of Arviat, I wish you a “good day.” (interpretation ends) Mr.

Speaker, I would like to question the Minister of Environment on the minister’s statement from today; Improvements of the Wolf Sampling Collection Program. Mr. Speaker, in the minister’s statement, it states here that “…under the recently approved program, harvesters will get paid an increased amount of $500.00 for samples submitted from harvested wolves across Nunavut. In some areas where caribou populations are in decline, such as Bluenose, Bathurst and Dolphin- Union herds, this payment will be $900.00 for each sample.”

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2929 Mr. Speaker, are these the only caribou herds that are in decline in Nunavut? Thank you. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon. Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my colleague for asking for that information. With respect to our caribou population and the fairly rapid decline, it will be more expensive to conduct a survey, but we are still proceeding with population surveys this year. Once the trend is clear either way, if changes are required, there will be attempts to try to make it more efficient. Thank you, Mr.

Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In the 2018 Statutory Report on Wildlife to the Legislative Assembly, the report states that the Beverly caribou herd and the Qamanirjuaq caribou herd are in statistical decline. Now, if the increased amount was not made for political reasons and it was made on statistics and on the counts of the caribou, will the minister commit to increasing the Wolf Sampling Program for the Beverly and Qamanirjuaq herds to $900 too, before the fall? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon.

Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my colleague for requesting more information in this regard. With the area he mentioned, there is a scheduled survey in June 2023 on the calving grounds of the herd, and once the data is reviewed and the trend direction identified and understood, we can make a better determination of their population status. If they are in potential danger, then caribou management may require further changes, but currently we have left the status as it stands now with respect to the sampling fees for wolves. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Once the calving grounds survey is completed, I believe the minister stated it was for this year for the Qamanirjuaq caribou herd, if there is a statistical decline, then will the minister commit to increasing the amount from $500 to $900 per wolf sample for the Qamanirjuaq caribou herd? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Environment, Ms. Quassa. Hon. Joanna Quassa (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my colleague for his question concerning these amounts.

In my announcement earlier we identified that the amounts for this year are set at that current amount for this fiscal year only. However, if there is further indication of the caribou population declining, based on their status, we can review the amounts for the Wolf Sampling Program to see if the amount needs to be increased, or if it should remain at the rate it’s at now. The status will become clearer for all parties once the survey is completed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2930 Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Tununiq, Ms. Nutarak. Question 470 – 6(2): Ethics Officer and Healthy Workplaces (Nutarak) Ms. Nutarak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This afternoon I will be directing my questions to the Minister of Human Resources. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, as the Member of the Legislative Assembly for Tununiq, I am proud to represent a number of constituents who work for the territorial government at decentralized offices in Pond Inlet. Mr.

Speaker, it is very important that our public servants have the ability to report potential cases of wrongdoing in the workplace. Mr. Speaker, in November of last year, a new Ethics Officer for Nunavut was appointed under

section 76 of the Public Service Act. As the minister is aware, Ms. MacPherson was recently selected to be a judge of the Supreme Court of the Northwest Territories, and I congratulate her on this well-deserved honour. Can the minister confirm whether the current deputy ethics officer will be appointed as the ethics officer or will the minister be undertaking a new selection process to fill the position? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Human Resources, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for asking that question.

You are correct in saying that, as it is regretful that this particular person will no longer work for us and is moving to the Northwest Territories. Though it is a loss for us, we will, however, start the process later in the summer to determine our final decision. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Ms. Nutarak. Ms. Nutarak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, minister. I also thank the minister for inviting us on Saturday morning, where members were included in that process.

Also, whenever question arise, I appreciate your candour and openness in providing information, as well as when we misunderstand any areas of your responsibilities. (interpretation ends) As a former government employee, I speak from experience when I say that it is essential that our workplaces be healthy and free from bullying and harassment. I understand and recognize that the Department of Human Resources has a Respectful and Harassment-Free Workplace Policy in place.

Can the minister indicate how her department ensures that Government of Nunavut employees in communities outside of Iqaluit are aware of their rights and obligations under this policy and are supported in the event that they choose to exercise their rights under the policy? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Human Resources, Ms. Nakashuk.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2931 Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for asking that question. You are absolutely right; when employees are not treated properly, they have to take the initiative to speak up and exercise their rights by raising it with their supervisors. If the supervisor is not responsive to their complaints, they have the ability to escalate their issue further up the chain to inform the human resource manager.

If none exists in their office, then they can approach a different division such as the one in Igloolik, or to the office in Iqaluit. We need to ensure that in cases where protocols are not being followed, not all of our offices are informed. This is why we try to disseminate the information to our (interpretation ends) human resource officers. (interpretation) When they are properly trained, they provide the information of rights and responsibilities to employees. That is what is supposed to occur when an employee is not being treated properly.

We must abide by the legislation and further, there is the (interpretation ends) Human Resources Manual (interpretation) that outlines how an employee can make a complaint should there be harassment in their office. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Ms. Nutarak. Ms. Nutarak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank the minister for explaining that clearly. (interpretation ends) Mr.

Speaker, many of our government’s employees are in precarious situations, especially casual employees who may fear that they will lose their jobs if they speak up about what they believe to be wrongdoing or inappropriate behaviour in the workplace. Can the minister explain how Government of Nunavut managers are made aware of their responsibilities under the Public Service Act in respect to ensuring that employees in such circumstances are not subject to reprisals? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Human Resources, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr.

Speaker. I also thank you for asking that question. (interpretation ends) It is very crucial that human resource officers within the departments know the policies in place, especially helping our employees, whether they’re casuals or indeterminate, that they understand the right process to make reports if they need to. Also, it is very important that supervisors and directors are aware of what might be happening within the office that they feel it should go forward.

It is very important to ensure that all departments, whether it be the human resource department, that performance reviews are also very important when we know what the work ethics may be of an employee. If they feel they are not getting the right treatment, then they should continue forwarding their concerns to the directors or higher up, especially with the human resource officers within the department. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2932 Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Uqqummiut, Ms. Killiktee. Question 471 – 6(2): Problems with Adoption Process (Killiktee) Ms. Killiktee (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question to the Minister of Family Services. Mr. Speaker, the most recent report of the Director of Child and Family Services for 2020-21 was tabled in June 2022. That document noted a total of 127 adoptions for that year, including 109 custom adoptions, which is 86 percent of all adoptions. Mr.

Speaker, can the minister clearly describe how her department works with the custom adoptions commissioners to legally register custom adoptions and explain why it takes so long for this process to be finalized? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon. Minister of Family Services, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for asking that question. As you just stated, different forms of adoptions exist in the process; some handled by the Department of Family Services here in Nunavut.

For fiscal year 2022-23, there were (interpretation ends)131 custom adoptions (interpretation) processed within all of Nunavut. Further, for fiscal year 2023-24, there have been (interpretation ends)11 custom adoptions (interpretation) being processed within Nunavut. I don’t recall the other part of your question, however, part of the delays that can occur may involve other parties separate from the Department of Family Services, such as the Department of Justice, or with cases initiated by legal services. There are different areas where several parties can be included in this process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Your first supplementary, Ms. Killiktee. Ms. Killiktee (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. I will use an example for the basis of my questions. In our local communities, when Inuit custom adopt children, such as their grandchildren, nephews, or nieces, the adoption papers still have to be signed by an adoption commissioner, which is a legal requirement. Mr. Speaker, although custom adoption commissioners have been appointed for most communities, it seems that there are some communities where there are no adoption commissioners appointed to fill this role. Mr.

Speaker, can the minister tell us which communities don’t currently have custom adoptions commissioners and how her department ensures that all custom adoptions are legally registered so that families can receive the necessary benefits to support their children as soon as possible? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Family Services, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for asking those questions. The question you asked

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2933 regarding the (interpretation ends) 23 custom adoption commissioners (interpretation) that we have here in Nunavut, do not fall under the Department of Family Services. There are other adoptions we handle, such as (interpretation ends) departmental adoption, private adoption and inter-country. (interpretation) Under custom adoptions, it can involve our department; however, the paperwork is not included in the paperwork required for Family Services. I wanted to clarify that aspect.

These are largely administered under Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, where they handle the paperwork under (interpretation ends) the Aboriginal Custom Adoption Recognition Act. (interpretation) They must adhere to the requirements listed in this Act. There are multiple sets of adoptions, and the mandate for the appointment of the custom adoption commissioners do not fall under the Department of Family Services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Ms. Killiktee. Ms. Killiktee (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

They are not under the Department of Family Services, however, it touches upon the overall mandate of the department as it affects a family’s income support branches, and without the proper paperwork outlining the custom adoption, they are impacted financially in supporting an addition to their families. Without this paperwork, their adoption is not recognized if it does not indicate the family is responsible for their adopted child. (interpretation ends) Mr. Speaker, the government’s adoption process does not seem to be operating smoothly.

The delays in processing paperwork are causing hardship for adoptive families and their children here in Nunavut. The most recent business plan of the Department of Family Services states that one of the department’s priorities for 2023-24 is to “Begin the process to review and make suggested changes to Adoptions Act and formalize Inuit custom adoption practices in legislation.” Can the minister describe what progress has been made on this initiative to date and indicate whether the current delays in processing applications can be addressed before waiting for the results of this review? Qujannamiik, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Minister of Family Services, Ms. Nakashuk. Hon. Margaret Nakashuk (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for your question. With respect to our departmental capacity, there are vacant positions that deal with these issues and because of the lack of capacity, this is being affected. However, you have identified something that we are looking to improve upon and how best to enact changes to ensure a smoother operational process.

With regard to the areas that we can improve on, we have considered the details in order to have a more efficient process, as there is, indeed, a backlog causing this slow pace of moving this forward. Also, another aspect that becomes problematic, as I mentioned

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2934 earlier, relates to cases where there are multiple parties involved in the adoption process. When there is a requirement for the involvement of other departments or agencies, if they, too, would look to speed up their review processes, it would enable us to speed up the entire process. Nonetheless, having this multiple-party approval process slows things down. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Kugluktuk, Mr. Anavilok. Question 472 – 6(2): Kugluktuk Power Plant (Anavilok) Mr. Anavilok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to direct my question to the Minister responsible for (interpretation ends) the Qulliq Energy Corporation, (interpretation) and it concerns the replacement of Kugluktuk’s power plant. This is a very important issue for my community, which is why I’m raising it again. (interpretation ends) As the minister is aware, the Qulliq Energy Corporation’s most recent tender to construct Kugluktuk’s new airport closed on Thursday, last week. Can the minister tell me today how many bids have been submitted to construct Kugluktuk’s new power plant? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon.

Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy Corporation, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank my colleague for asking further questions about that. I can’t say right now because the RFP just closed. Once I have the information, I will be able to relay the information to my colleague. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Anavilok. Mr. Anavilok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr.

Speaker. (interpretation ends) As the minister is aware, the Qulliq Energy Corporation’s most recent request for tender to construct Kugluktuk’s new power plant was issued on April 04, 2023. At that time the minimum Inuit labour content for the project was set at 45 percent of total labour costs. However, on May 19, 2023, the Qulliq Energy Corporation subsequently reduced the minimum Inuit labour requirement to 30 percent of total labour costs.

Can the minister clearly explain the reasons why the Qulliq Energy Corporation reduced the minimum Inuit labour requirement by such a significant amount? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy Corporation, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to thank my colleague for the question. We always have to look to see how many Inuit are available in Nunavut to be hired for these projects, but I agree that it really benefits communities when we are able to create jobs in the communities, especially.

When the

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2935 community is being looked at to see how many Inuit would be available, we base the estimates on that, but the RFP just closed. As to how many Inuit will be able to work; we will be working further on that. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Anavilok. Mr. Anavilok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank you for that response. (interpretation ends) When I raised the issue of Kugluktuk’s new power plant during last Friday’s sitting in the Legislative Assembly, I noted that the Qulliq Energy Corporation is no longer undertaking a hybrid solar-diesel design for the plant. Some federal funding for the construction of the new power plant had been approved through the Arctic Energy Fund. In response to my questions last Friday, the Minister responsible for Qulliq Energy Corporation indicated that some of the funding had to be returned to the federal government.

Can the minister confirm the exact amount of funding that has been returned? (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister responsible for the Qulliq Energy Corporation, Mr. Pauloosie Akeeagok. Hon. P.J. Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I also thank you for asking those questions. This issue, as I outlined previously, was due to needing to enact changes, specifically future construction of the power plant for Kugluktuk. I reiterate my appreciation for his warm hospitality to his community.

I was able to see the actual new lot chosen by the community, where the power plant will be built. This aspect, as I explained previously, is related to the solar panels that collect the sun’s rays to recharge certain power cells, and the large fuel tank. They were the cause of the problems with the original plan and together they surpassed the allotted funding amount during the final review, totalling over $8.5 million. This was the additional costs that went over our budget allocation. We had to request more funding, so I cannot identify how much will need to be returned as I do not have that information.

I will return with the right information for my colleague. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Oral Questions. Member for Iqaluit-Tasiluk, Mr. Hickes. Question 473 – 6(2): Subsea Fibre Project (Hickes) Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to direct my question today to the Minister responsible for Community and Government Services. Mr. Speaker, it has been a few months since, as MLAs, we have received an update on the subsea fibre project for here in Iqaluit. I wonder if the minister would be able to give us an update on the progress and status of that project. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Hon.

Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Fibre was bound to come up again at some point.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2936 Mr. Speaker, the Iqaluit fibre project that was tendered out through the best and final offer, we didn’t have a successful bidder and, as a result, we had to cancel. At this time, we are seeking alternative funding sources to try to gain the level of funding that is required to proceed with this project. It’s still an ongoing endeavour, but we’ve had to take a pause on it through the tendering process that was put out. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your first supplementary, Mr. Hickes. Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I’m glad the minister brought up the cancelled RFP. Mr. Speaker, when I look on Nunavut Tenders, I can find seven related tenders that have been put out in the last number of years, of which three have now been cancelled, one awarded for a project, director of services on installation, which I think is putting the cart far before the horse. We’re looking at installing and we don’t even have a project going forward. A standing offer was accepted for providing cabling material, a standing offer, again, not necessary until the project moves forward.

Two other RFPs, for some reason, the system won’t let me go in and check the status of, as well as a number of people I’ve had to look into this. When I look at all these RFPs that are being cancelled, I have a serious question when we look at some of the correspondence we have received as a committee and as MLAs, even from the Nunavut Association of Municipalities resolution stating right in it that the Government of Nunavut would have been better to have spent this money on other infrastructure priorities, such as water, wastewater, granular supply, building housing, supporting Nunavut 3000.

At the very end of that resolution, the Nunavut Association of Municipalities requests that the Government of Nunavut support an Inuit business that seeks to leverage public and private funds to improve basic services into Nunavut, and then reallocate the funds currently targeted for the Government of Nunavut fibre optic project to other priority community and municipal infrastructure. Mr.

Speaker, I would like to get information from the minister today, and the minister has committed in this House previously that he would be willing to work with the Inuit organizations and the Inuit-led initiatives, and I would like to get confirmation. The minister stated that they’re looking for more funding; they’re not looking at other options. What is the Government of Nunavut looking at to proceed on this project? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

One of the areas that we’re looking into is seeking other federal funding pots that might fit the project eligibility, but also alongside it, we are trying to look at other options around if other entities out there are looking to do a similar project as what we have been pursuing. This project has been ongoing for several years and the intention was always to try and have everything lined up for when the cable is ready to plug in. So those RFP processes that we had put out were all to do with that.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2937 Mr. Speaker, I am still committed to working with my colleagues here on how best to spend our capital funds and fibre has been our priority for a number of years. We will continue to push forward and look at how we can get that, and of course, the satellite costs that we continue to incur on a year-to-year basis, considering those in contrast to having a fibre link just to Iqaluit alone, would pay dividends, I think, on both ends. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Your second and final supplementary, Mr. Hickes. Mr. Hickes: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister won’t get any argument, I don’t think, from anyone from our side of the Chamber that bringing fibre into Iqaluit will speed up and improve the bandwidth quality across the entire territory. There is no secret to that. Mr.

Speaker, it has been publicly stated that Nunavut Tunngavik Incorporated, the Qikiqtani Inuit Association, PanArctic Communications, chambers of commerce, Baffin and Iqaluit, as I’ve stated, the Nunavut Association of Municipalities, the City of Iqaluit, and Inuit businesses support looking at other alternatives to utilize these funds that have been allocated to this project in a way that would alleviate the government burden on financing this project and be able to use these infrastructure dollars for other needed priorities.

Can the minister commit to me today that the minister is still open to working with these organizations to look at other options in providing fibre optic to Iqaluit? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. All I’ll say is all options are on the table at this time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to extend question period. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: The member is seeking unanimous consent to extend question period.

Are there any nays? There is a nay. Item 7. Written Questions. Item 8. Returns to Written Questions. Item 9. Replies to Opening Address. Item 10. Petitions. Item 11. Responses to Petitions. Item 12. Reports of Standing and Special Committees on Bills and Other Matters. Item 13. Tabling of Documents. Minister of Community and Government Services, Mr. Joanasie. Item 13: Tabling of Documents Tabled Document 137 – 6(2): Government of Nunavut Drinking Water Strategic Framework (Joanasie) Hon. David Joanasie: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to table the Government of Nunavut’s Drinking Water Strategic Framework.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Tabling of Documents. Hon. Minister of Justice, Mr. David Akeeagok.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2938 Tabled Document 138 – 6(2): Unlawful Property Forfeiture Act 2021-22 Annual Report (Akeeagok,

D) Hon. David Akeeagok (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I am pleased to table the Unlawful Property Forfeiture Act 2021-22 Annual Report. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Tabling of Documents. Minister of Education, Ms. Gross. Tabled Document 139 – 6(2): Provincial and Territorial Ministers of Education Meeting – July 5, 2022 (Gross) Tabled Document 140 – 6(2): Student Loan Fund March 31, 2021 (Gross) Tabled Document 141 – 6(2): Student Loan Fund March 31, 2022 (Gross) Hon. Pamela Gross: Quana, Mr. Speaker.

I am pleased to table three reports, the provincial-territorial Ministers of Education met on July 5, 2022 for the 110th meeting of the Council of Ministers of Education Canada; and also, the Department of Education’s Student Loan Fund for the year ending March 31, 2021 and March 31, 2022. Quana, Mr. Speaker. Speaker: Tabling of Documents. Minister responsible for the Nunavut Liquor and Cannabis Board, Mr. Kusugak. Tabled Document 142 – 6(2): Cannabis Licensing 2022-23 Annual Report (Kusugak) Tabled Document 143 – 6(2): Nunavut Liquor and Cannabis Board 2021- 22 Annual Report (Kusugak) Hon.

Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to table two reports, the Cannabis Licensing 2022-23 Annual Report and the Nunavut Liquor and Cannabis Board 2021-22 Annual Report. No, I don’t have any samples, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. >>Laughter Speaker: Tabling of Documents. Minister of Health, Mr. Main. Tabled Document 144 – 6(2): Inuusivut Anninaqtuq Action Plan 2017-2022 (Main) Hon. John Main (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Speaker. (interpretation ends) I am pleased to table the 2017-2022 Inuusivut Anninaqtuq Action Plan Final Report. (interpretation) Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: Tabling of Documents. Item 13. Tabling of Documents. Item 14. Notices of Motions. Item 15. Notices of Motions for First Reading of Bills. Item 16. Motions. Item 17. First Reading of Bills. Item 18. Second Reading of Bills. Item 19. Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters. Bills 24 and 25 with Mr. Hickes in the Chair. Before we proceed to the Committee of the Whole, we will take a 20-minute break. Sergeant-at-Arms.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2939 >>House recessed at 15:40 and Committee resumed at 16:08 Item 19: Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters Chairman (Mr. Hickes): Thank you. I would like to call the committee meeting to order. In Committee of the Whole, we have the following items to deal with: Bills 24 and 25. What is the wish of the committee? Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. We wish to commence with the review of Bill 24 and the accompanying documents, and if time permits, we will proceed to Bill 25 and the accompanying documents.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Are we in agreement that we first deal with Bill 24? Some Members: Agreed. Bill 24 – Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, No. 1, 2023- 2024 – Consideration in Committee Chairman: Thank you. I would like to ask Minister Kusugak: do you have officials that you would like to appear before the committee? Hon. Lorne Kusugak: I do, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Does the committee agree to let the minister’s officials appear before you? Some Members: Agreed. Chairman: Thank you. Please escort the witnesses in. Thank you.

For the record, please introduce your officials, Minister Kusugak. Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. To my left is Megan Hunt, Deputy Minister of Health, and to my right is Jeff Chown, Deputy Minister of Finance, Mr. Chairman. Throughout the course of this session, I may need to do some substitutions, but we will deal with it with your permission as we move along, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you, Minister Kusugak. I am expecting that we will have a few witness changes over the course of the afternoon, but if you can please proceed with your opening comments for Bill 24. Hon.

Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I appear before you today to present Bill 24, Supplementary Appropriation (Operations and Maintenance) Act, 2023-24, No. 1. Through this bill, the government is seeking to increase its overall appropriation by $14,116,000 for two departments, that being Health and Community and Government Services. If approved, the Department of Health will increase an additional $9.92 million to fund two key areas, namely, addressing staffing shortages and improving dental services.

The Department of Health has put together a plan to address staff shortages in our health centres to keep the doors open

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2940 and provide life-saving services to Nunavummiut. The plan includes a range of recruitment and retention incentives, along with several non- monetary initiatives to improve working conditions. Health intends to implement these measures on a two-year trial basis and will require $9.3 million to implement in 2023-24. Health also plans to reorganize and revamp its territorial dental services at a cost to the GN of $580,000 in 2023-24.

This additional appropriation will allow Health to create a new Dental Division, funded partially by the GN and partially through the agreements with the Government of Canada. The Department of Community and Government Services is seeking $4.2 million in additional appropriations to move forward with rebuilding the Qulliq Energy Corporation’s IT infrastructure after their January 2023 cyber-attack. As you know, the cyber-attack crippled the corporation’s business network and shut down their access to critical applications.

CGS and QEC staff are working to fully restore and modernize the corporation’s IT infrastructure. This work needs to happen and this appropriation, if approved, will allow the cost to be absorbed by the Government of Nunavut. If this funding is not approved, the cost will need to be recouped from Nunavut ratepayers in the form of higher electricity costs. Mr. Chairman, although we are seeking this O&M supplementary funding early in the fiscal year, I am confident that departments are making good effort to deliver programs with their appropriated budgets. This concludes my opening comments, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you. Chairman: Thank you. If members can go to Bill 24, you’re looking to approve Not Previously Authorized, $14,116,000. I’ll ask any members for any general comments to the opening comments at this time. Seeing none, please turn to page 4. We will see under Directorate, Not Previously Authorized, $580,000. Any questions? I’ll give members just a moment to get to that page. Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With the Department of Health’s operations and maintenance, will dental patients be seen within Nunavut or outside the territory? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you. Minister Kusugak. Hon. Lorne Kusugak (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. With respect to the funding required for dental services, dental officers work in Nunavut and outside of Nunavut. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Malliki. Mr. Malliki (interpretation): Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Dentists don’t visit some communities on a regular basis or for long periods of time. If we approve this appropriation, with there be an increase in the frequency for dental services? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you. Minister Kusugak. Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr.

Chairman. If I could have Ms. Hunt respond to that question, Mr. Chairman. Thank you.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2941 Chairman: Thank you. Deputy Minister Hunt, please. Ms. Hunt: Thank you and thank you for the question. We currently have 30 dental clinics across the territory that are fully equipped with dental suites and visiting dental teams have full access to these. By doing the dental reorg., it will give us the ability to expand and further meet the needs within each of these community centres, because we know that they’re not fully being utilized at this time because of some of those disparities.

This is really meant to help fill that gap, improve the services, have it timelier and closer to home. Thank you. Chairman: Thank you. I don’t have any more names on my list for this item. I would like to maybe just get some clarification. There are currently two existing positions within this team that are Vote 4 funded. Was the opportunity explored to look at using further Vote 4, which is federal, or partner dollars, non- GN dollars to support these positions? Minister Kusugak. Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If I could have the deputy of health respond to that through you, Mr. Chairman.

Chairman: Thank you. Ms. Hunt, go ahead, please. Ms. Hunt: Thank you for the question and apologies. To your question around the two non-Vote 4 positions which are currently contract positions because they are physicians and then funding that would further allow us to use non-GN dollars, it is part of the work and discussions and negotiations with our Indigenous Services counterparts as part of our Non-Insured Health Benefits and medical transportation discussions. Thank you. Chairman: Thank you. Maybe I’m missing something here.

With these two positions that are being applied for to remove from contract positions and put them under Vote 2 funding, if the department is successful in lobbying to get these positions paid through for Vote 4, would these monies be put back into surplus? Thank you. Ms. Hunt. Ms. Hunt: Thank you and thank you for the further clarification. Ultimately the goal would be for reinvestments into health services and, of course, the ability to bring that forward for support and approval would be the goal of Health. Thank you. Chairman: Thank you.

I still have no more names on my list under this item, under Directorate. Previously Not Approved. $580,000. Agreed? Some Members: Agreed. Chairman: Thank you. Please, on the same page, on page 4, looking at Local Health Care Service Delivery. Previously Not Approved. $9,336,000. Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My first question would be that the department is asking for a sup bill of $9.3 million only two months into the new fiscal year. I just need clarification from either the minister or one of the officials on why this is happening. Thank you.

Monday, May 29, 2023 Nunavut Hansard 2942 Chairman: Thank you. Minister Kusugak. Hon. Lorne Kusugak: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. This is something that was mauled over for quite some time. This is new money that the department is asking for funding on. If we wait and do budget from within and go until later in the year and ask for a supplementary appropriation for this amount, you would get kind of criticized for not doing it at the front end. In this case, the department thought it was important enough that this is something that we need to do at the front end of this year.

Unfortunately it did not make the time enough to put it into our budget, but I believe that the department was being proactive in saying that we need this funding. It’s very critical that we do this and decided to put it in the front end. We realize that it’s just two months into the budget to this year, but it’s one of those where you’re damned if you do or if you wait longer, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Chairman: Thank you. Mr. Savikataaq. Mr. Savikataaq: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the recruitment and retention bonus system, there is a little over $4 million budgeted for group 5 employees.

I have both heard and have seen that there is quite a discrepancy between the permanent, indeterminate nurses’ benefits and what an agency nurse or a casual nurse might get in terms of trips paid back and forth. There was the program about bringing a buddy. I know that was initiated to try to keep health workers here, but they will fly one of their buddies up for Christmas or other occasions. This is just making it harder to recruit indeterminate nurses when the benefits financially are leaning towards agency nurses.

Is there anything going to be done for the indeterminate or permanent nurses that live here in Nunavut, that want to live in Nunavut, that service Nunavummiut, that don’t just come and go as they please when they feel like coming here and to where they want to go? Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Chairman: Thank you, Mr. Savikataaq. Just to add a little bit more clarity, if maybe the group 5 employees, a description of those professions could be described as well too. I’m assuming, Minister Kusugak, you’re going to ask me to go to Ms. Hunt, so I’ll follow that and I’ll go directly to Ms. Hunt. Thank you. Ms.

Hunt: Thank you. Thank you for your question. I’ll start with an overview of the group 5 roles because I think it’s helpful