CERTAIN FUNDS, ACCOUNTS AND/OR INVESTMENT VEHICLES Managed by Affiliates of Fortress Investment Group L.L.C., Plaintiffs-Appellants, v. KPMG, L.L.P., KPMG International Cooperative, PricewaterhouseCoopers L.L.P., PricewaterhouseCoopers International Limited, Defendants-Appellees, 798 F.3d 113

GERARD E. LYNCH, Circuit Judge: In this case, we consider several aspects of 28 U.S.C. § 1782, the statute providing assistance to litigants in proceedings before foreign and international tribunals. The statute authorizes a district court, “upon the application of any interested person,” to order a party “found” in the judicial district in which the court sits to produce discovery “for use” in a foreign proceeding. 28 U.S.C. § 1782(a).

Plaintiffs-appellants investment funds sought, by ex parte application, to discover certain documents from the defendant American and international accounting firms relating to audits conducted by their Middle Eastern affiliates. The district court (Naomi Reice Buchwald, Judge) denied the application on several grounds.

We conclude that (1) assuming arguendo that the' funds were “interested person[s]” in ongoing foreign proceedings, the funds did not establish that the evidence they sought was “for use” in those proceedings; and (2) the district court did not err in finding that additional proceedings that the funds asserted they intended to initiate were not “within reasonable contemplation” at the time the application was made. We accordingly AFFIRM the judgment of the district court.

BACKGROUND Plaintiffs-appellants are certain funds, accounts, and/or investment vehicles managed by affiliates of Fortress Investment Group, LLC (“the Funds”). The Funds held interests collectively amounting to roughly $380 million in two Saudi conglomerates, the Saad Group (“Saad”) and Ahmad Hamad Algosaibi and Brothers Company (“AHAB”). The largest of these interests was an interest in the Golden Belt 1 (“GB1”) sukuk, a financial instrument issued by Saad.

The Funds’ interest in the GB1 sukuk was valued at $129 million, which amounted to about 20% of the sukuk’s aggregate value, making the Funds the single largest holder of its certificates. The Funds held various other investments issued by Saad and AHAB, including participation in a Cayman Islands holding corporation for Saad’s assets outside of Saudi Arabia, valued at $35 million. In 2009, AHAB began reporting financial problems that were traced • to fraud and embezzlement of the conglomerate’s assets by Maan A Sanea, the owner of Saad.

In response to the alleged fraud, the Saudi Aabian Monetary Authority froze all of A Sanea’s assets. This prompted Moody’s to withdraw all ratings for Saad. Other international regulatory authorities reacted, including, as relevant here, the Central Bank of Bahrain, which seized control of several subsidiaries of Saad and AHAB, and the Grand Court of the Cayman Islands, which issued a worldwide freezing order against A Sanea and dozens of companies owned by Saad, including the one in which the Funds held their $35 million interest.

As a result of these events, all of the financial instruments of Saad and AHAB, once worth several billion dollars, are now in default. Various legal actions were instituted in several countries in the wake of the conglomerates’ default. First, the Delegate of the GB1 sukuk brought a claim in Saudi Aabia against Saad and A Sanea to enforce the promissory notes that made up the sukuk. That claim was originally brought before the Saudi Negotiable Instruments Committee, a quasi-judicial body that has binding authority to resolve disputes related to negotiable instruments.

The claim has now been withdrawn, however, and (after the district court’s decision in this ease) refiled before the Saudi Banking Disputes Committee, another quasi-judicial committee with jurisdiction over bank debt. Second, proceedings to liquidate the Cayman Island holding corporation were initiated in the Cayman Islands. Third, a proceeding to liquidate the assets of an AHAB affiliate in which the Funds held an interest was commenced in Bahrain.

Nearly five years after the Saudi conglomerates’ default, the Funds filed an ex parte application in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782 seeking documents and other evidence relevant to these foreign proceedings from the accounting firms KPMG L.L.P., KPMG International Cooperative, PricewaterhouseCoopers L.L.P., and PricewaterhouseCoopers International Limited (collectively, “the firms”).

KPMG L.L.P. and PricewaterhouseCoopers L.L.P. are United States-based accounting firms (“the U.S. firms”), while KPMG International Cooperative and PricewaterhouseCoopers International Limited are firms incorporated, respectively, in Switzerland and England (“the international firms”). According to the Funds, affiliates of the firms in Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and Dubai audited various companies owned by AHAB and Saad that were involved in the offerings and investments that the Funds held.

Therefore, they contend, the firms are likely to have information about the finances of the two conglomerates that will be highly useful and relevant to the pending proceedings in the various foreign jurisdictions. In addition to the ongoing proceedings described above, the Funds alleged that they intended to use the information sought through their § 1782 application in several legal actions that the Funds planned to initiate directly.

As part of their application before the district court, the Funds asserted that they “intend[ed] to instigate claims against the Saad Group and AHAB before” the two Saudi quasi-judicial committees, “intend[ed] to bring claims, sounding in tort and breach of contract, against those responsible for the faulty financial reports that misled investors into purchasing interests in GB1” in English court, and intended to seek other relief “from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or its agencies.” App’x 110-11,133. The district court denied the Funds’ § 1782 application.

The court held that the Funds sought documents primarily from the international firms, which are both different entities from the New York-based U.S. firms, and that the international firms were not “found” in the judicial district in which the application was filed.

With respect to the ongoing foreign proceedings, the district court also held that the information the Funds sought was not “for use” in a foreign proceeding, because the Funds were not a party to any of the pending proceedings, and there was no “discernible procedural mechanism” whereby the discovered material would actually be used in the foreign proceedings. Special App’x 14.

The district court held, moreover, that the Funds had failed to demonstrate that they were “interested person[s]” in the context of the pending foreign proceedings, because they had no role in those proceedings and did not establish that they had a right to submit evidence to the foreign tribunals in question. Id. 18. Although acknowledging that a non-party can be an “interested person” under the statute, the district court held that simply being a creditor of a debtor that is the subject of a liquidation proceeding is not enough to confer such status.

With respect to the contemplated proceedings, although the Funds had retained counsel to investigate and prosecute their claims in the planned proceedings, the district court held that a “dispositive ruling by a foreign tribunal ... [was not] within reasonable contemplation.” Id. 17. Having concluded that the Funds failed to meet the statutory requirement's that establish the court’s authority to order discovery under § 1782, the district court did not reach the discretionary factors that determine whether to grant the application. The Funds appealed. DISCUSSION I.

Statutory Requirements 28 U.S.C. § 1782 provides, in pertinent part: “The district court of the district in which a person resides or is found may order him to ... produce a document ... for use in a proceeding in a foreign or international tribunal ... upon the application of any interested person .... ” We have summarized the statute as setting forth three requirements: that “(1) the person from whom discovery is sought resides (or is found) in the district of the district court to which the application is made, (2) the discovery be for use in a proceeding before a foreign tribunal, and (3) the application be made by a foreign or international tribunal or any interested person.” Brandi-Dohrn v.

IKB Deutsche Industriebank AG, 673 F.3d 76, 80 (2d Cir.2012). Once the statutory requirements are met, a district court may order discovery under § 1782 in its discretion, taking into consideration the “twin aims” of the statute, namely, “providing efficient means of assistance to participants in international litigation in our federal courts and encouraging foreign countries by example to provide similar means of assistance to our courts.” In re Metallgesellschaft, 121 F.3d 77, 79 (2d Cir.1997) (internal quotation marks omitted).

Because the district court here denied the Funds’ § 1782 application solely on statutory grounds, and did not reach the discretionary factors, our review is de novo. See In re Application for an Order Pursuant to 28 U.S.C. § 1782 to Conduct Discovery for Use in Foreign Proceedings, 773 F.3d 456, 459 (2d Cir.2014); In re Edelman, 295 F.3d 171, 175 (2d Cir.2002). II. Analysis The international firms contend, and the district court held, that no discovery can be ordered as to them, because they are not “found” in the Southern District of New York, where the application was made.

We need not address that argument, however, because we conclude that the Funds have failed to establish that the discovery they seek is “for use” in a foreign proceeding. Since that failure defeats the Funds’ application as to all the defendants, including the U.S. firms, who concededly are found in the District, we proceed directly to that issue. To satisfy the second and third statutory requirements, an applicant for a § 1782 order must be an “interested person,” and must establish that the discovery sought is “for use in a proceeding before a foreign tribunal.” Brandi-Dohm, 673 F.3d at 80.

The Supreme Court analyzed these statutory requirements in Intel Corp. v. Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., 542 U.S. 241, 124 S.Ct. 2466, 159 L.Ed.2d 355 (2004). In that case, the § 1782 applicant had filed an antitrust complaint against Intel with'the Directorate-General for Competition of the European Commission. Id. at 246, 250, 124 S.Ct. 2466. That complaint triggered a preliminary investigation by the Directorate-General into the alleged anti-competitive behavior. In that investigation the applicant, as initiator of the complaint, had the right to present evidence. Id. at 254, 256, 124 S.Ct. 2466.

The investigation would ultimately lead to a formal written decision on whether to pursue the complaint. If the Directorate-General declined to proceed, or if the European Commission failed to sustain its complaint, the § 1782 applicant could seek review of that decision in the European courts. Id. In light of that procedure, the Supreme Court ruled, the applicant “ha[d] a significant role in the process,” including various “participation rights” in the proceeding. Id. at 256, 124 S.Ct. 2466.

Moreover, the Court concluded, the applicant “could ‘use’ evidence in the reviewing courts ... by submitting it to the Commission in the current, investigative stage,” and then relying on that evidence before the Commission itself and the reviewing courts. Id. at 257-58, 124 S.Ct. 2466. The Supreme Court thus concluded that the applicant “qualifie[d] as an ‘interested person’ within any fair construction of that term,” id. at 256, 124 S.Ct. 2466, and that the discovery sought was “for use in a foreign or international tribunal,” id. at 257, 124 S.Ct. 2466.

We make two preliminary observations about the Supreme Court’s decision in Intel. First, the Court did not lay down minimum requirements or tests to be met in determining whether the party seeking discovery is an “interested person” or whether the discovery is sought “for use” in a foreign proceeding. The Court appeared to regard the case before it as an easy one, in effect finding that the facts before it were sufficient to satisfy the requirements of the statute, and not suggesting that facts identical to those in Intel were necessary to meet those requirements.

Second, the Court’s analysis suggests that, while the “interested person” and “for use” requirements are independent, there is considerable overlap between them. The applicant’s “participation rights” in Intel, on which the Court relied in finding that the applicant was an “interested person,” prominently included the applicant’s ability to use the evidence it sought in the U.S. courts before the foreign administrative tribunal and courts by submitting the evidence to the investigating agency in the foreign proceedings. A.

Ongoing Foreign Proceedings The defendant firms argue that the Funds are not “interested person[s]” with respect to the ongoing proceedings in Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and the Cayman Islands, because they lack the kind of “participation rights” possessed by the applicant in Intel. It is unquestionably true that the Funds do not have participation rights similar to the § 1782 applicant in that case.

The Funds have made no showing that they are able to present evidence to any of the tribunals conducting those proceedings, or to appeal or otherwise seek further review, in courts or other institutions, of any decision reached in those proceedings, as the applicant could do with respect to the Commission proceedings in Intel. If such rights are necessary for an entity to constitute an “interested person” within the meaning of § 1782, the Funds do not qualify. We are cautious about reaching that conclusion in the absence of a need to reach the question, however.

As noted above, the Intel Court did not state that such rights were necessary for an applicant to constitute an “interested person,” appearing to find that “participation rights” such as those possessed by the applicant there qualified it as an interested person “within any fair construction of that term.” Id. at 256, 124 S.Ct. 2466.

Moreover, in rejecting Intel’s argument that “interested person[s]” under the statute must be “litigants” or formal parties to a proceeding, the Court cited with approval the expansive definition provided by Hans Smit, a leading academic commentator on the statute who played a role in its drafting. Id. at 256-57, 124 S.Ct. 2466.

Professor Smit maintained that the phrase “any interested person” is “intended to include not only litigants before foreign and international tribunals, but also foreign and international officials as well as any other person ... [who] merely possesses] a reasonable interest in obtaining the assistance.” Hans Smit, International Litigation Under the United States Code, 65 Colum. L.Rev. 1015,1027 (1965). The Funds argue on appeal that they are “interested person[s]” in that broader sense, in that they have a reasonable interest in obtaining judicial assistance in the ongoing foreign proceedings.

They base that argument on their substantial financial interest in the entities that are the subject of the ongoing proceedings, their ability to influence those proceedings through the Delegate or trustees pursuing claims in the respective proceedings, and because of their status as creditors of the Saad and AHAB affiliates being liquidated in the Cayman Islands and Bahrain. Preliminarily, we doubt that the Funds’ financial interest in the outcome of the foreign proceedings alone could be sufficient to confer “interested person” status under the statute.

Various entities may have a financial stake in litigation to which they have no direct connection: Shareholders in a company facing a products liability suit are likely to have a financial interest in the outcome of that suit; multiple competitors may have a financial interest in an antitrust case brought by the government; a wide range of media companies may have a financial interest in a libel case involving one newspaper. Most legal cases involve such externalities and have implications, including financial ones, for persons beyond the parties formally participating in the case.

Congress cannot have intended to confer “interested person” status on all possible amici curiae when it passed § 1782. Whether the Funds are “interested person[s]” based on their alleged ability to put evidence before other persons who are parties to the foreign proceedings, or by dint of their status as creditors in the liquidation actions, are closer questions.

On the one hand, the ability simply to pass on information to parties in a proceeding, without more, cannot confer “interested person” status any more than the ability of amicus counsel to pass along evidence and arguments to counsel representing one of the parties in litigation. On the other hand, an established right to provide evidence and have the party consider it, as the § 1782 applicant had in Intel, 542 U.S. at 256, 124 S.Ct. 2466, or a recognized relationship, such as that of an agent and principal, see Lancaster Factoring Co. Ltd. v.

Mangone, 90 F.3d 38, 42 (2d Cir.1996) (agent of trustee in bankruptcy proceeding is “interested person” for purposes of § 1782), may be sufficient to make an otherwise stranger to the proceeding an “interested person.” Similarly, the role of a creditor under the relevant jurisdiction’s law might confer certain procedural rights that allow the creditor to participate and submit evidence in the proceeding. See, e.g., 11 U.S.C. § 1109(b) (under U.S. bankruptcy law, “[a] party in interest, including ... a creditor ... may raise and may appear and be heard on any issue in a case under this chapter”).

We need not decide whether any of these circumstances might, in an appropriate case, render a party an “interested person” within the meaning of the statute, however, because even if the Funds qualify for that designation, they have identified no way in which they can “use” the evidence they seek in any of the ongoing foreign proceedings. Without some means of injecting the evidence into the proceeding, a § 1782 applicant cannot show that it has a role in the proceeding, such that it may “use” the information, or, as we have recently said, employ it “with some advantage.” Mees v.

Buiter, 793 F.3d 291, 297, 2015 WL 4385296, at *4 (2d Cir. July 17, 2015). Consequently, even assuming that the Funds are “interested person[s]” in the pending proceedings in Saudi Arabia, the Cayman Islands, and Bahrain, we agree with the district court that their application fails to satisfy the statute’s “for use” requirement, because the Funds have not met their burden of establishing that they are in a position to use the evidence they seek through their § 1782 application in those ongoing foreign proceedings.

The Funds’ primary argument that the information they seek regarding Saad’s and AHAB’s financial status is “for use” in the pending proceedings is that such information "will be “highly relevant” to those proceedings. Appellants’ Br. 33. That argument is misplaced. The relevance of the information sought to the subject of the proceeding is not sufficient in and of itself to authorize the district court to order discovery.

By adopting the phrase “for use,” Congress plainly meant to require that § 1782 applicants show that the evidence sought is “something that will be employed with some advantage or serve some use in the proceeding.” Mees, 793 F.3d at 297, 2015 WL 4385296, at *4. The key question, therefore, is not simply whether the information sought is relevant, but whether the Funds will actually be able to use the information in the proceeding.

Framing the question that way shows that the Funds’ asserted relationships to the parties in the foreign proceedings and their alleged participation rights are insufficient to establish that they will be able to use the evidence obtained as required by the statute. In the proceedings before the Saudi quasi-judicial committees currently being pursued by the GB1 Delegate, the Funds assert that a 25% stake in the GB1 sukuk is necessary to direct the Delegate’s actions, but they concede that they hold only a 20% stake.

Consequently, the Funds are not in a position to direct the Delegate to consider their evidence or submit that evidence to the tribunal. Even assuming that the Funds have the ability to submit information to the Delegate, who can then decide whether or not to use that information, that does not establish that the information is “for use” in a foreign proceeding; it establishes, at best, that the Funds can furnish information in the hope that it might be used.

That is no different from a third party providing information to a private litigant that it believes might be useful in a lawsuit, or a witness approaching a prosecutor’s office claiming to have knowledge of a crime. Such information might be relevant or interesting to the recipient, but it is not “for use” in any proceeding in which the recipient is a party unless the recipient takes some further, independent action to introduce it.

The Funds also allege that they “may submit probative evidence to the foreign tribunal,” App’x 138, presumably meaning directly to the Saudi committees, but they do not explain how they are in any position to have the committees consider that evidence. They state in their brief on appeal (but did not argue or present any evidence to the district court) that they are members of a steering committee of AHAB creditors “seeking to resolve debts owed by AHAB.” Appellants’ Br. 9.

But they provide no information on what role, if any, that steering committee plays in the Saudi proceeding or whether the steering committee has any ability to put evidence before the quasi-judicial committees. The Funds accordingly fail to establish that any of the evidence they might obtain could be used in the proceedings in Saudi Arabia.

Similarly, with respect to the proceedings to liquidate, assets in the Cayman Islands and Bahrain, the Funds assert various participation rights that we may assume arguendo grant them interested person status, but'that upon examination reveal no mechanism by which they could use any information obtained through a § 1782 order in the liquidation proceedings.

Specifically, the Funds assert that their status as creditors in the Cayman Islands proceeding authorizes them to “request the removal of an official liquidator; coordinate with other investors to request that the liquidator apply to the court for a discovery order[;] request the ability to participate in an oral examination; apply to the court with respect to the exercise or proposed exercise of the liquidators’ powers; ... and seek to inspect the company’s records.” Id. 11-12 (internal quotation marks and citations omitted).

As to the Bahraini proceeding, the Funds similarly assert that they “have the ability to challenge before a competent court of law any proposal or decision made by the liquidator.” Id. 13. All of these supposed participation rights allow the Funds, at best, to “seek” or “request” to participate in the proceeding, or, perhaps, to challenge the liquidator’s decision in a separate proceeding. See In re Ishihara Chem.

Co., 251 F.3d 120, 126 (2d Cir.2001) (evidence sought was not for use in proceeding that had concluded, and was instead for use in new, separate proceeding), abrogated on other grounds by Intel, 542 U.S. 241, 124 S.Ct. 2466. Contrast that to the right of the applicant in Intel to seek review of the agency’s determination within the proceeding itself, and thus to use the evidence obtained through its § 1782 application in that proceeding. 542 U.S. at 257, 124 S.Ct. 2466 (applicant “could ‘use’ evidence in the reviewing courts ... by submitting it to the Commission in the current, investigative stage”).

Undoubtedly, information that the Funds could obtain regarding the firms’ audits of the conglomerates might be helpful to the trustees in the liquidation proceedings in determining the proper distribution of the conglomerates’ assets. To that end, however, there is nothing preventing the trustees — or the GB1 Delegate in the Saudi proceeding— from seeking discovery in U.S. courts pursuant to § 1782. Such information might also be useful to the Funds in determining whether to attempt to challenge aspects of the liquidation.

But that does not imply that there is any way for the Funds to introduce that information as evidence in the liquidation proceedings or on appeal. The Funds accordingly have failed to establish that any of the evidence they seek could actually be used in any of the foreign proceedings that were pending at the time they made their application. Because the Funds failed to show any way that they could put before the foreign tribunals the information they sought to discover, the district court correctly concluded that the information was not “for use” in a foreign proceeding.

We consequently find no error in the district court’s conclusion that the evidence sought here was not “for use” in the ongoing foreign proceedings. B.

Planned Proceedings In addition to the proceedings that were extant at the time they made their application, the Funds asserted before the district court that they intended to use-the information they sought in three actions that they planned to initiate: (1) direct claims brought against Saad and AHAB before the Saudi quasi-judicial Negotiable Instruments and Banking Disputes Committees, relating to ■ obligations under promissory notes and various debt instruments; (2) a claim in English courts, sounding in tort and breach of contract, “against those responsible for the faulty financial reports that misled investors into purchasing interests in [the] GB1 [sukuk]’”, and (3) relief from “the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or its agencies” for alleged discriminatory conduct against foreign creditors in the settlement of debts owed by the various investment instruments.

App’x 133-34. Assuming that the Funds would actually be parties to these proceedings, and that the information sought through their § 1782 application would be employed to prove their claims, there is no question as to these proceedings that the Funds meet the “interested person” and “for use” requirements. The question instead is whether the planned actions are “proceeding[s] in a foreign or international tribunal” within the meaning of the statute.

In Intel, the Supreme Court rejected the view, then prevailing in some Courts of Appeals (including this one), that a § 1782 applicant could satisfy the “for use in a proceeding before a foreign tribunal” requirement only when “adjudicative proceedings are ‘pending’ or ‘imminent.’ ” 542 U.S. at 259, 124 S.Ct. 2466, quoting In re Ishihara Chem. Co., 251 F.3d at 125. Instead, the Court held, the statute “requires only that a dispositive ruling by the [tribunal] be within reasonable contemplation.” Id. (emphasis added).

The Court noted, citing Professor Smit, that “[i]t is not necessary for the adjudicative proceeding to be pending at the time the evidence is sought, but only that the evidence is eventually to be used in such a proceeding.” Id. (internal quotation marks and alterations omitted), quoting Smit, International Litigation, at 1026. Two conclusions may be drawn from the Supreme Court’s discussion of the “for use” requirement as it relates to proceedings that are contemplated, but not yet initiated. First, as the Court’s formulation makes explicit, the planned proceedings must be within reasonable contemplation.

In other words, the applicant must have more than a subjective intent to undertake some legal action, and instead must provide some objective indicium that the action is being contemplated. In this regard, our sister Circuits have stated that “a district court must insist on reliable indications of the likelihood that proceedings will be instituted within a reasonable time.” Application of Consorcio Ecuatoriano de Telecomunicaciones S.A. v.

JAS Forwarding (USA), Inc., 747 F.3d 1262, 1270 (11th Cir.2014) (internal quotation marks omitted); accord, In re Letter of Request from the Croum Prosecution Serv. of the U.K., 870 F.2d 686, 692 (D.C.Cir.1989) (R.B. Ginsburg, J.) (same). We need not decide here what precisely an applicant must show to establish such indications; it suffices to observe that the Supreme Court’s inclusion of the word “reasonable” in the “within reasonable contemplation” formulation indicates that the proceedings cannot be merely speculative.

At a minimum, a § 1782 applicant must present to the district court some concrete basis from which it can determine that the contemplated proceeding is more than just a twinkle in counsel’s eye. Second, the relevant question is whether “at the time the evidence is sought, ... the evidence is eventually to be used” in a foreign proceeding. Intel, 542 U.S. at 259, 124 S.Ct. 2466 (emphasis added) (internal quotation marks omitted). In other words, we assess the indicia of whether the contemplated proceedings were within reasonable contemplation at the time the § 1782 application was filed.

At oral argument, counsel for the Funds informed the Court that the action in English court had finally been commenced, and that the litigation was pending. But we cannot consider that fact in assessing whether the district court correctly determined that the English lawsuit was not within reasonable contemplation at the time the application was filed. We must instead consider the facts as they were presented to the district court.

Reviewing the record at that stage, it is apparent that all that the Funds alleged before the district court was that they had retained counsel and were discussing the possibility of initiating litigation. Accordingly, at the time the evidence was sought in this case, the Funds had done little to make an objective showing that the planned proceedings were within reasonable contemplation.

In light of the substantial length of time between the Saudi conglomerates’ default in 2009 and the filing of the Funds’ § 1782 application in 2014, we cannot say that the district court erred in determining that the anticipated proceedings were not within reasonable contemplation at that time. Our conclusion that the district court did not err in finding, on the record before it, that the prospective actions projected by the Funds were not then within reasonable contemplation does not preclude a new application by the Funds based on new circumstances, including the now-pending English litigation.

See Mees, 793 F.3d at 302, 2015 WL 4385296, at *7 (“[A] party may file a new application upon a significant change in circumstances.”). But those changed circumstances must be brought to the district court’s attention in the first instance, especially since they could affect the court’s weighing of the discretionary factors, if it were to determine that the statutory requirements are met. Now that the linns are on notice of the Funds’ interest in discovery, there is no longer a reasonable basis for proceeding ex parte.

Should such a new application be made, therefore, the district court will have the benefit, as it did not at the time of the initial ex parte application, of the full range of arguments made by the defendant firms, and should be in a better position to assess both the statutory prerequisites to the district court’s authority under § 1782 and the discretionary factors bearing on whether, if those prerequisites are satisfied, the district court will order discovery to be provided. CONCLUSION For the foregoing reasons, the district court’s denial of plaintiffs-appellants’ § 1782 application is affirmed. .

A sukuk resembles a corporate bond but is structured to comply with Shari’a law. . The parties dispute what role, if any, the defendant firms played in the audits conducted by Middle Eastern accounting firms affiliated with them; what control, if any, the international firms wield over their Middle Eastern affiliates; and where the international firms are located. Given the bases on which we resolve this appeal, we need not ■ address these disputes. .

The court rejected the Funds’ argument that the international firms are found in the Southern District of New York because several of their top officials reside in Manhattan, holding that a corporate entity is not found in a judicial district merely because certain high-ranking executives reside there. . The district court also questioned, but did not decide, whether the documents the Funds sought were located in the United States. .

For the same reason, we need not address defendants’ argument that the U.S. firms are not proper recipients of a subpoena issued pursuant to § 1782, because they are not in possession of the documents that the Funds seek.

At least where a non-frivolous reason has been given for averring that the recipient possesses the documents sought, we are skeptical as to whether such a contention is properly resolved on an ex parte application for discovery, rather than on a more fully developed record generated by, for example, a motion to quash or a response to the subpoena asserting that no responsive documents have been found. . The Funds’ reliance on Esses v.

Hanania, 101 F.3d 873, 875-76 (2d Cir.1996), is unavailing. .There, we rejected an argument that "a potential beneficiary of an estate should not be recognized as an interested party.” But the beneficiary in that case was also a party to the foreign proceedings. See id. at 875; accord, Akebia Therapeutics, Inc. v. FibroGen, Inc., 793 F.3d 1108, 1110, 2015 WL 4284817, at *2 (9th Cir. July 16, 2015) (rejecting argument that applicant was not "interested person” where it was “a party to the foreign proceedings underlying this case”).

We have never held, nor even suggested, that a mere financial interest confers "interested person” status under § 1782. . The relevance of the information sought may be necessary, however, insofar as it is difficult to conceive how information that is plainly irrelevant to the foreign proceeding could be said to be “for use” in that proceeding. Cf. In re Chevron Corp., 633 F.3d 153, 162 (3d Cir.2011) ("Inasmuch as relevant evidence is presumptively discoverable, the party opposing discovery under

section 1782(

a) has the burden of demonstrating offense to the foreign jurisdiction, or any other facts warranting the denial of a particular application.” (internal quotation marks and alterations omitted)). . We assume without deciding that the quasi-judicial committees constitute a foreign “tribunal” for purposes of the statute. The Funds do not argue, however, that the Delegate itself, like the Directorate-General of the European Commission in Intel, can be regarded as an agency or tribunal; the Delegate rather appears to be in the nature of a trustee who acts on behalf of the holders of interests in the sukuk. .

Counsel for the Funds also stated for the first time at oral argument that the Funds are part of a committee of certificate-holders of the GB1 sukuk that collectively hold a greater-than-25% interest in the sukuk, and therefore have the ability to direct the GB1 Delegate. That argument has been forfeited. See United States v. Yousef, 327 F.3d 56, 115-16 (2d Cir.2003) (argument forfeited when not asserted in initial appellate brief). . The Funds also assert that their status as creditors in both liquidation proceedings entitles them to receive periodic reports regarding the proceedings. .

We have warned that district courts should avoid inquiring into foreign evidentiary rules, see Brandi-Dohm, 673 F.3d at 82, so as to keep the assessment of § 1782 applications from becoming a "battle-by-affidavit of international legal experts.” Euromepa S.A. v. R. Esmerian, Inc., 51 F.3d 1095, 1099 (2d Cir.1995). The Funds interpret the district court’s statement that there was no “discernible procedural mechanism” for introduction of the discovered material as such an inquiry into foreign admissibility standards. We disagree.

Whether an applicant will be able to furnish the material sought to the foreign tribunal, so that the material may be "employed with some advantage or serve some use in the proceeding,” Mees, 793 F.3d at 297, 2015 WL 4385296, at *4, is a separate question from whether the discovered material will be admissible in the foreign proceeding. The district court's demand that the Funds identify some "discernible procedural mechanism” for introducing the evidence they sought simply reflects the burden on a § 1782 applicant to establish that it will have some means of actually using the evidence in the foreign proceeding.

The inquiry is no more exacting than the Supreme Court’s discussion of "participation rights” in Intel. See 542 U.S, at 256-57, 124 S.Ct. 2466. . With respect to proceedings before the Saudi quasi-judicial committees, the Funds somewhat cryptically stated in their memorandum supporting the § 1782 application that they “intend[ed] to instigate claims” before the committees. App’x 110 (emphasis added).

It is not clear whether by "instigate” they meant to initiate, or whether they meant the term literally as "to spur, urge on; to stir up, stimulate, incite, goad,” Oxford English Dictionary 1044 (2d ed.1989), i.e., to instigate someone else to initiate such claims. If the intended meaning is the latter, the Funds’ role in any such proceeding, and accordingly their status as "interested person[s]” under § 1782, is dubious. .

Counsel also asserted that the Cayman Islands liquidation proceeding was, as of oral argument, no longer pending, and the contemplated proceedings before the Saudi quasi-judicial committees could be resolved by settlement before being initiated. The Funds appear to have abandoned any effort to seek relief directly from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. . The Funds argue that the district court erred in drawing a distinction between a foreign proceeding being within reasonable contemplation and a “dispositive ruling by a foreign tribunal [being] within reasonable contemplation.” Special App'x 17 (emphasis added).

The Funds are correct that that is a distinction without a difference. Intel held that § 1782 "requires only that a dispositive ruling ... be within reasonable contemplation.” 542 U.S. at 259, 124 S.Ct. 2466. But there is little daylight between a proceeding being within reasonable contemplation and the resolution of that proceeding — by either dispositive ruling or by settlement — being within reasonable contemplation.

See Mees, 793 F.3d at 299, 2015 WL 4385296, at *5 (noting that .§ 1782 requires only that the evidence sought under the statute be used "eventually” in a foreign proceeding, which "plainly encompasses use at any point in the proceeding”). Nevertheless, the district court did not rely on any such distinction, and instead correctly determined, based on the objective indicia before it, that the planned proceedings were not within reasonable contemplation.

The court went on to state, however, that it was concerned that the Funds’ request was a mere fishing expedition, and had the Funds actually initiated one of their direct suits, that concern would be mitigated.

Although a district court is entitled to scrutinize the purposes of the discovery request in its consideration of the discretionary factors, see Intel, 542 U.S. at 264-65, 124 S.Ct. 2466, we reiterate that, to meet the statutory factors, "the foreign proceeding need not be pending, so long as it is within reasonable contemplation.” Mees, 793 F.3d at 299, 2015 WL 4385296, at *5 (internal quotation marks omitted).